Idk man even top 20 feels like a stretch maybe top 25 or 30. But yea flor isn't that bad, just mid but some people overglaze her so much just because of their gender and transphobic people just say she's ass

It was yetujey If I'm not wrong

Yeah but he has proven his point, flor aint better than a lot of duelists. So saying that they are top 5 duelist itw is kinda delusional

Bruh? Just watch bbl and liquid's games. LewN and kamo both are underrated af

flor IS NOT better than marteen

Yeah I ain't suprised, if you're trying it for the first time it might not taste very good. It's overhyped af as well

Everyone on EG got a rating lower than 1 and loud had 3 players above 1 rating and loud still somehow lost tf. Did loud throw the post plants that much because of which this happened? Only Supamen went +ve on k/d for eg that too only +2

He's baiting ignore him

Exactly what people fail to understand

https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/8403ab35
YES IM BIASED

where are you gonna fit him tho

nAts?

Fair point but this team would still win everything with demon1 locking jett every map tbh except fracture where he can switch to smokes and tenz can play raze (he used to play in 2021)

Who's gonna play duelist? If tenz then who plays smokes?

Current demon1, yes but eg demon1 clears every human being on this planet who has ever touched valo

In my opinion:

EG Demon1 (2023 Champs) (Duelist)
2023 Chronicle (Initiator/viper)
2023 Leo (initiator)
GMB nAts (IGL) (Sentinel)
2021/2024 TenZ (Smokes/Duelist)

I was thinking about going with aspas with demon1, but I don't think it would work so had to go off of aspas

Drop urs in the replies as well

I didn't say beating g2 is impossible or something, Im just saying there is a higher chance that g2 beat us than any other team in americas right now. But anyways good points, I like your argument. Someone who is actually talking with reason on vlr is rare to see.

That is exactly what i understood at first too like why are demon1 and dgzin dming you

now 1v1 them in a custom and we will see who diffs who LMAO

mibr 2-0 100t
Aspas drops 60 in 2 maps

Least delusional nrg fan

its just that if we face g2 earlier, there is higher chance for us to get knocked down to the lower bracket and 1 more slip up could end our run. If we face them in like the upper final or smth its fine because we have already guaranteed toronto qualification till then

Yeah we should've won against kru and lost against eg we would've qualified

SEN 3-2 G2
2 maps going to OT
Zekkena drops 120

We'll see

I'll take that over G2 all day
Also who tf is crying? People these days really just use crying for every argument huh

2-1 SEN
LETS GOO SENTINELS
ZEKKENA gonna carry us

G2 3-2 Mibr

you better not edit this
he said Mibr 3-0 g2 btw so if he edits, you know

First c9 who are looking really good atm, and then FUCKING G2?? what the hell man

Vlr is never gonna be great again if you talk like that

Terrible Bait
0/10

G2 fnc heretics

ngl current GiantX with flickless and ara clears apeks we've seen their potential against heretics and fnatic, winning a map against both of those teams as someone like giantx is not a joke.

I mean I could've said the same for kru that don't get fooled by the sen match because they lost 2-0 to eg and dropped a map against 2g?
Just saying I'm not trying to fight or ragebait

Bruh? Ik zellsis can be sus sometimes but if you actually watch sen's matches, he clutches a good amount of 1v2s for us so just stop yapping and stop being so reactionary

What do you guys think should 1st 2nd seed be decided on h2h record or on delta rounds? Because as far as I have seen in other sports and esports, its based on score difference

Least reactionary vlr user

saying flair is fine, saying flag is insane

4-0 arsenal (just watch) not an arsenal fan btw

This aged like milk

cursed kru fr

this might be the most logical and calm conversation I've seen on vlr yet and its coming from an Argentinian and Brazilian speaking to each other. Respect

Valyn should be higher ngl

2G and SEN in the same tier??? you've got to be baiting right?

atleast we didn't throw away a 10-0 lead against giant fucking x

oh ic

why is boom here in vct pacific in the first place since they lost ascension?

same I'm feeling it too

Is it just me or there are far more thrifties and clutches in pacific as compared to other regions? even converting 3v5s like its nothing