I mean the Odin on Lotus is really good, however annoying it may be.

That's fair but also, the best teams at shanghai should be able to figure out how to beat this comp. Their attack side is going to struggle massively, on an attack-sided map.

Bruh, Potter would cook up an anti-strat that would destroy the fuck outta this comp. Not even aim would be able to save them then. Don't let yourself believe this is a good comp by any means.

Tbf all I saw was the Jett thing, but also not mentioning the no initiator is crazy.

They're running sage, no initiator, and jett is what you're focusing on?

FUT is getting cooked at shanghai if they play comps like this, EMEA is legit fucked lol.

Bro said forsaken is a one-trick lmao

SEN vs EG was fun though and surprisingly close, but I didn't watch SEN vs LEV so idk.

Bro leaf is one of those players that just provides impact for a team from their comms and energy. It also helps that he's a really great fragger.

G2thelion rooting against G2...interesting.

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He has been pretty successful as an IGL though, he won a masters, placed top 3 in three straight events, and has placed top 6, and top 4, with a different roster. Like, he knows the game well enough to be talking shit, lol.

I think it's 3-1 to NAVI, so maybe it's working...

Well that's why I said a lot, not all. FNS is still a good IGL, and it would depend on the players around him, ofc, but EMEA is very up in the air rn.

Again it depends on the team around them, but FNS could run circles around a lot of EMEA teams if we're being honest.

Doombros kidnapped him and has been pretending to be his twin brother Emil, the coach of TL, while also sabotaging them so that NAVI has it easier.

Depends on the team around them, but it's not like they'll be playing there anyway.

Tbh, it's not a bad list, but I feel like no team is really an S tier team rn. Like it's just a bunch of A tier teams where matches are just determined by who shows up more on a given day.

Yeah np, also if LOUD win out EG won't make it. So there is a world in where neither make playoffs, because if EG/100T both beat NRG and LOUD win out, neither make it in.

NRG would need to beat 100T, and either SEN lose to LOUD, or KRU loses at least two of their games to (LOUD, LEV, 100T). It's somewhat possible in this scenario, but beating 100T is looking like it could be difficult given the form of each team.

Jawgemo's Jett is way better than Demon1's Raze, at least for now.

G2 lowkey got sold with their group, they're actually a good team that gets overshadowed by the fact their group is so good.

Bleed, bruh, that team is just the biggest wtf I've seen in a while. Like, it's still to me the most random roster, and it's not even that close to their ascension roster anymore.

M8 is just similar to G2 in that they're a good team, but they aren't getting overshadowed that much because EMEA is just a mess overall.

Ok, and? aspas went crazy against C9 and LEV still lost. Obviously, they're playing better now, but aspas alone isn't going to win every game.

I hope so because I picked G2 after LEV lost to C9, and forgot to change it. Tbh though, G2 could do it with the way teams are playing this year.

Nah SEN definitely threw that game against EG. Like fair enough for EG, they played well, but losing 11-1 in one half is crazy.

How would it be clear he's the problem? TL still suck, and Vitality doesn't suck they're just inconsistent.

I mean rn he's like the only Neon, so yeah.

Bro it's crazy, like I've never seen teams' form fluctuate this much throughout all the leagues.

Bruh did you see Madrid? They lost to SEN because SEN had better mental. The mental buff is crazy in Valorant, man.

Bro you talking to a PRX fan, we already lost to that NAVI roster. At least we stayed good though.

Well a lot of teams can win, but which teams actually end winning changes the discussion. My point was just TH is a young team and I think however good their ceiling is, it will be capped by the fact that some teams just have better mental them. At least, that's the case for now.

Nah, at least one NA team is making Shanghai.

Bro you can't be one to talk, NAVI flairs got plenty of shit takes too lmao.

All this just to lose to whatever NA teams show up in Shanghai

Champs was like $65 w/ tax, and Madrid was like 57 euros w/ tax (but there were like 40 euro tickets), so you're looking at like 50-60 ish dollars. It does depend on the day/which seats you go for.

I mean that's fair, I'd be inclined to agree the PRX will never win, but this isn't about PRX though.

Yeah it's tough, I'm honestly lucky that I live in Cali so I could go to champs. Definitely look for earlier games, while they aren't as high stakes, they'll be cheaper. That's what I did, I picked out of the first round of games so I could chose which teams I got to watch. Good luck though, maybe one day.

Idk TH have really good players, but I just don't see how to they win an international event. Maybe I'm just wrong, but there are just a lot of teams I feel like would rise to the moment better. At least for now, maybe eventually they might.

It's hard not to get a little hype in person. The atmosphere at these events is insane.

I feel like SEN's win was as hard as you can get in a run, assuming teams are even remotely. They had to beat the most of the best teams in the world at the time. They aren't playing well now, but their win was still quite impressive you have to admit.

Bruh flair man, NAVI fans were annoying af last year too, smh.

Tbh SEN fans are no worse than any other teams' fans when they win, there's just more of them.

Hating like crazy for no reason lol

In before they lose to EG/100T and miss out on playoffs

I mean maybe the word nuclear is a bit much, but even on Sunset there were just some rounds that EG would win just off of his aim/lurks. Like Apoth genuinely might have been the difference for EG is this game.

You did not watch that game man, Apoth had so many impact rounds and he fragged pretty well on Bind.

EG is actually not as bad as people think. Obviously, SEN wasn't playing that great, but part of EG's struggle's have been because jawgemo has not been playing well. It made such a massive difference for EG, that he was online. Also, though, massive props to Apoth, bro went nuclear against SEN.

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