IDK if I'd go as far as a generational talent, but her being on a GC's team hurts her stock with a lot of people.

Put boaster on duelist fr

PRX is never doing this even if xccurate is forsaken's brother

1. Not a banger
2. Banger
3. Fuck no, in what world is this a banger match?
4. Only interesting because of M8 but not even close to a banger
5. Could go either way but it'll probably be a good match

I'd give you 2/5 on banger matches this week.

As a Non-European, I also wanna know.

Does bro know

SugarZ3ro is good but chill, MaKo still clears.

I do too, but some of the stuff people are saying in this thread is just weird icl.

Yeah, Breeze is still in the map pool.

That's completely not what I said but ok

like the number of teams that could be competitive internationally

Damn this thread got some insane arguments like wtf

Pacific is more top-heavy and Americas has more depth. Idk if that answers your question.

I think so, but like I said it depends on the situation.

I think flor could do well in T1 but it really does depend on the situation. She clearly has the mechanical ability it's just whether she can translate that against the best of the best.

ik this a bait, but like neon just got buffed lmao.

Are you just a fan of Ts and Zs?

No, most of the teams were ass because it was the beginning of both franchising and the season. Not to mention starting the season off with a single elimination tournament where you could end up playing one game, and then going home. It was a fun way to kick off franchising, but holy hell it's a terrible way to measure how good teams are.

Really, it's just good for having fun and unr, but for actually trying the map looks so bad.

From what perspective is Breeze good?

Wait I forgot, mb.

I'd go with

zekken
Ethan
eeiu
Boostio
Cryo

Yeah, it is pretty close between the two. I just think Meteor putting up the numbers he was on a support role, is enough to put him over the edge.

Lowkey I feel like Meteor deserves a shout. He was going crazy on sentinel, especially towards the end of the tournament.

Unless FNC really step it up, then yeah. Even if they do, the top half of the EMEA league is fairly competitive I'd say. Even a good FNC might struggle in the current state of VCT, especially internationally.

It's not that hard to grasp if you've followed EMEA val this year. FNC fell off somewhat, and other teams stepped up.

If you think FNC is the best team in EU still, I have some bad news for you.

FUT is not that good and I never said FPX were a bad team. I'm just pointing this post is kind of pointless because almosts bring up a lot of dumb discussions.

Yeah ik that's there, but part of the TH run was woot going crazy on duelist. Not that miniboo couldn't do that, or that woot couldn't perform like that on a different role, but TH was in crazy form this tournament. You never know, maybe with miniboo they play a lot worse.

This take is so dumb, like sure patitek is a sub, but he's still an insane player. He went like +23 against G2 in the lower finals. GENG is just best team itw rn.

No, but like with yay, it might be difficult to make it back in the same way.

If we doing almosts, TH almost choked to FPX and would never have gone on a run. In the end, almosts don't matter.

That could definitely be part of the reason they struggled in Shanghai. Either way, PRX is still in a pretty good spot for champs. I think they'll be fine when that time comes around.

Alecks did an interview where he said that Forsaken was struggling because he was focusing on setting up Jinggg a lot, and not so much on other aspects of his game. Basically, they were trying to support Jinggg getting back into playing, and that was taking away from enabling other players' games.

However, he did also say that he thought a good finish was 4th or higher, and they ofc didn't make that. It was just not a great tournament from them, but it's not something that can't be fixed.

Going a little far there, but OXG does have one of the most promising cores in T2.

It's part of the clip

please help me

I mean yeah EMEA has 10 teams to NA's 6 so it makes sense. But if we're being honest NA could probably field 10 competitive teams due to the insane saturation of talent in NA T2.

Roster 1:
zekken - $4
Shahzam - $1
Nismo - $3
johnqt - $5
skuba - $2

Total: $15

Roster 2 (EG: "The System"):
Reduxx - $3
Verno - $3
flyuh - $2
v1c -$2
skuba - $2

Total: $12

idk how many games either team wins, but both are pretty good rosters imo.

simple, they have a lot of champion points.

Ngl this year of VCT has proven that playing more games is actually just better.

lmao no way you think you're catching people with this bait.

SEN is pretty much guaranteed to make champs. They just have to win a couple of games and they probably get in on Champs points.

I think their mental is fine. They placed top 2 without miniboo. I think the main concern is the lack of time to prepare.

But it's still true to some extent though. Maybe I should have phrased it as part of being a good team is not choking often, but I still don't get how this in any way proves BLG is a good team.

I mean it depends on how you define good I guess. If it's a team that could contend to win, PRX might not even count because they always choke. Anyway, that wasn't really the point though. Idk why you're so stuck on this BLG point lol.

Can we not talk about DRX? I get sad every time thinking about the old DRX roster.

If you're using their current form, you could make the argument they aren't a good team. PRX usually only choke in the later games though. Like, they're usually clearly better than most other teams. Almost beating DRX once isn't the same thing.

Ok, but part of being a good team is not choking.

I mean they got 2-0'd though