who would’ve guessed that the best teams end up being the top 4 cores from Champions. maybe we need to stop hyping up new teams as much

him fumbling the awp shot is what literally lost NRG the game

There’s a 3rd region?

no but TL are playing about as good as a GC team would at the moment

maybe they think it’s TL female

It’s okay, remember 99% of gamblers quit before they win big.

I don’t expect them to beat Furia at all but I also think people are overestimating how bad they are off of the Ludwig x Tarik event.
I don’t know if it’s a hot take but I feel like a solid 1/3 of franchised teams at least would’ve also got exposed similarly by TGrd/TSM too had they attended that event.

Thread should be about why are tierlists wrongfully underestimating Loud specifically, not all Brazilian teams. If anything, channels like Plat Chat gave a team like MIBR way too much credit. As for Furia, I may personally think they are the dark horse of the event but their is no evidence that they will be anything past a B tier team at the moment, so I wouldn't say they are even being underestimated yet.

ban is still better than will though

I think so. It would either be scrim all teams including KR teams or not scrimming any Pacific franchise teams at all, so my guess would be they’re doing the former*

Edit: they also scrimmed Talon before so nearly 100% sure they scrim Gen.G too now

Definitely! And DRX vs LOUD is a win-win scenario too honestly, cause either I get to see DRX finally make a GF or LOUD play with a packed crowd. Obviously I’d still rather see DRX win and maybe get another slot for Pacific but it will be a great match regardless of the result.

W Saadhak respecting other teams. I wonder how true DRX’s word is about Gen.G or if they were just hyping up the homies for their debut

🦖SPAM🦖THIS🦖REX🦖TO🦖HELP🦖DRX🦖SPAM🦖THIS🦖REX🦖TO🦖HELP🦖DRX🦖

GGs Talon, let's see if DRX can make the Pacific region proud

Natus Vincere

1. LOUD
2. 100T
3. NRG
4. LEV
5. C9
6. SEN
7. EG
8. FUR
9. MIBR
10. KRU

I agree

bros lost it

TLN are really creative on Ascent, not sure why DRX didn’t prioritize playing Icebox instead

I have no idea why they didn’t choose Icebox

Rb not playing Neon is a massive throw

First half goes a lot different if BuZz didn’t whiff the 1v1 but it is what it is. Let’s see if they’ve improved their Ascent since playing against BBL

THEY REALLY ALL JUST LEFT LMFAO

If Talon win, there will be officially 0 pickems with 100% accuracy

At least deserved to make top 16 based on this match. Unfortunate playing Loud first round

they need to replace one of the caster duos with Paperthin and Achilios

Pacific guaranteed top 4 LFG

You have an obsession with the past, don’t accept the present, and aren’t ready for the future -Sprouts 2023

DRX still innovating
TLN and Gen.G looking competitive
PRX unfortunate map picks in hindsight but will hopefully bounce back

Not as bad as we originally thought after Day 2

now time for Talon to win 🙏

gotta get them back for bullying our Pacific brothers

GGs C9, have a safe flight 👋

Idk how I feel about this. Im yet to see harbor even win a map

💀

C9 and DRX are chill with each other, it’s just a little banter

LOUD vs GENG Fracture was a banger too

C9 could still win Haven, Drx defense <<<< Drx attack

T1 going to have a C9 level comeback then 🙏🙏🙏

It looks like a waste cause you can see where C9 players are. DRX don’t have that, so they have to clear it.

WHAT THE FUCK SEULGI WHYYY

mixture of both

two major issues for DRX was that they played way to slow and they lost like 80% of the duels.

it’s not mental lmfao, they’re just getting beat. idk why u guys still think everything is a mental issue for this team

maybe they could also just color the matches under the tab? like highlight franchise matches in gold, VCL matches in green, and then keep miscellaneous matches like knights tournaments just white

They didn't have any strats and prolly considered this as a showmatch as it is. As Jingg said in his streams they actually wanted to get quick 2-0ed and prepare for Tokyo. PRX players were not motivated at all to play this event seriously.

no offense but this is so much copium. teams still want to win this event and should be motivated to do so. if they don't, they probably shouldn't even be franchised in the first place (the rest of your takes are good though)

they do have an pretty solid mental now though? went 4/4 in OTs in Champions, made a 12-4 comeback, a 9-3 comeback, and nearly reverse swept OPTIC. not to mention even recently, after dropping a map against BBL, instead of falling apart like they use to they were just laughing before locking in map 3

While I was taking a long ass nap, he told me that tomorrow both EG and C9 win to guarantee an Americas team makes finals.
on the other side of the bracket, TL and FNC go through and guarantee an EU vs NA finals (he said it'll be good for viewership)
the final ends up being C9 vs FNC where C9 3-1 in the finals (sorry boaster). yay becomes the first player to win two international events

sorry for spoiling the rest of the tournament

FPX, PRX, MIBR

he’s going to end up just like Seoldam, whether people want to admit it or not

KC and GIA too high while KOI and GENG are too low in my opinion