Nah we need to see them play a non-trolling Loud first, like the Loud that faced FUR, before we can call them better than teams like DRX and NAVI

Casters talk about them like that cause you are watching the Pacific broadcast where they hype up Pacific teams. They are the best team in the region, so why wouldn’t the casters hype them up? It’s just like FNC or LOUD getting hyped up in their respective regions.

As for why they get hyped up by fans, it’s cause they are consistently top 5 in the world. Sure they don’t have any titles, but getting top 5 for the past few events still makes you a good team regardless. Not to mention the fact that a lot of OG strats that are still used today come from them.

lowkey might still be worth betting on RRQ right now. imagine having worse odds than your opponent even after winning the first map bruh

DRX also picked Fracture into GENG, seems kind of like they can’t even be bothered to do research on these other teams

our teams are actually playing like dogshit this week. T1 were lucky to even beat DFM

genuinely 50% imo, especially since there's a solid chance that one of Zeta/T1/TS lose their last 3 matches. if tiebreakers are decided by h2h though that'll be rough for GE

Korea = 13-4
Japan = 4-8
Southeast Asia = 9-12
South Asia = 2-4

Cause are teams are good? Viewership isn't everything

Pacific:
Average - 141k
Peak - 336k

EMEA:
Average - 126k
Peak - 289k

the fuck are you on about

if RRQ beat DRX today the entire Pacific deserves to get clowned on ngl

they're 1-2 against KR teams bruh, I don't know if I'd say KR killers yet

idk, that's what I use to think too but he's been a lot more consistent recently

what about Foxy9, dep, and something?

GE win this game if they keep the same playing 5 in for map 2

Shyy?

must've read my vlr post during half time

now fight the urge to buy an attack awp every round and GE wins the map

4K ROSSI MY GOAT

Drx also actually were able to get maps off of a top 3 team, 4-0’d Ange1 in Champions, and that new player makes them better than they were in LOCK//IN, so I don’t get that reasoning

You can’t say one team is better than the other right now cause you can make up bullshit logic for both sides like what you and I just did

no cause it's pretty solidified that the top 4 are FNC, LOUD, DRX, and NAVI right now

nah clearly the only right answer to this is that LEV fluked against NRG and that 100T then fluked against LEV. Order is just being restored (i'm diamond btw)

that was such a bad call from 100T to all go tp

only DRX are good in that region

I'm saying GenG proves this wrong :|

GENG is solid + KOI vs KC Haven was genuinely even worse

Why would you drop the pit when there is 15 seconds left? It’s not like he was waiting for his team cause he then immediately just dry peaked the angle

DRX, ZETA, SEN

I still think LEV is the most overated team right now. I've seen you argue that you give the edge to NAVI over DRX for results, which I guess is understandable, but where are LEV's results to warrant them being top 6 then? They lost to FUR and 100T and the best results this team has had was beating your 10th place team NRG, who haven’t been looking great recently, and 17th place team VIT. Seems like flawed logic.

the choke narrative is actually so braindead. they lose because they are just worse than the other team, it's had nothing to do with choking ever since Champions

VIT have to be the most overrated franchise team. They got shit on by both BBL and FUT yet people put them above both while trying to call them top 10-12. Their best achievement was barely beating TL when they were still in their ass phase and the only reason this team wins games is cause Twisten is the goat

way too high for either one of them too

EG, KRU, MIBR

bro snuck in Molsi and thought we wouldn’t notice 😭

OCE not profitable, CN very profitable. Unlucky, really

murizzz not winning is actually laughable. This just proves how biased this award is because of Noyn’s followers. It’s clearly not even all Brazilian fans since most of the Brazilians I’ve seen on this site seem to think a MIBR player deserved the award more, just his followers are blind.

Top 10 in no order I would say:
Leo
Derke
Aspas
Less
MaKo
Shao
kiNgg
Marved
Chronicle
Sayf

actually true, but he was only in the argument during Champions, since SEN got him on permanent KJ duty now

You're delusional if you think MaKo is on the same tier as bang or khalil. The only controller player who has even been comparable to him for the past year is Marved.

I don't think your first scenario is possible since more than 1 team can't go 0-9

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forgot this cause apparently it's wrong :|

Congrats to EG for making history this week

Rendzin might also be schizophrenic

murizzz should win this by far. he had one of the lowest ratings and IGL'd his team to win only 18 rounds across 2 matches. Dgzin didn't even play that bad, just got singled out cause of the comments before the match.

I don't think we even known what T1 means. I've seen people say it's "team one", others say it's just "telecom one", and then a few say it stands for Digital Signal 1, which can be abbreviated to T1

LOUD, C9, SEN (Marved owns Americas)

Every team had access to chamber but not every team had access to a yay. It's not that the team found the correct way to play the agent that no one else did, it's that the agent fit yay's aim and playstyle almost perfectly, since it allowed you to play a mix of passive and aggressive while the headhunter relied on good crosshair placement (which yay is still best in the world at)

Marved and Chamber meta

KRU has got to be the most flank prone team in the world

I didn't say they weren't in playoff contention, that would be plain delusional, but I'm saying you guys rate them too high too soon:

They got called a potential Champions winner after rolling their group but couldn't even take a map in playoffs.
They got called an S tier team at the start of LOCK//IN but got humiliated by NAVI.
They got called top 2 americas after beating NRG dominantly but have since then lost to FUR and 100T.

Is it a hot take to think LEV are overated? They've lost to both 100T and FUR and are still yet to beat a top 5 Americas team, with their best achievement so far being beating NRG who are currently 1-3.

When they play a decent team, the roll them, but they're still yet to beat a team that are considered top tier. I'll admit they look good when they're feeling it, but I just don't get how people some people can still immediately call them top 2/3 Americas and place them on the same level of NAVI with these lack of results.

FUR and LEV ain't S tier teams bro