Nah Victor is proven, but imo it's hard to put him for Neon when he hasn't touched the agent yet this year.

the issue with RRQ is their performance against T1 makes it hard to justify putting them above them. where would you rank them?

1. DRX
2. PRX (when they aren't trolling)
3. GES
4. TLN (when they aren't trolling)
5. ZETA
6. GENG
7. TS
8. T1
9. RRQ
10. DFM

if GES lose today though this'll look really bad

Edit: fuck

TS 2-0, T1 are mid

I'm saying keep SA the way it is right now. It's too far away to combine with other leagues cause of ping issues and it's already supposed to be a mixture of a bunch of other countries, so it would be too much to combine it with another region.

Riot honestly need to just combine VCL at this point, too many of them are either dominated by one team, have no viewership, or have no org support. Here's an example of what regions could look like:

Pacific
East Asia: Korea + Japan
Maritime SEA: Philippines + Indonesia + Singapore + Malaysia
Mainland SEA: Thailand + Vietnam + Laos/Burma/Cambodia
South Asia
Oceania
(include HK/TW in the CN VCL when the league is set up)

EMEA
Western Europe: Northern + France + DACH
Southern Europe: Spain + Portugal + Italy
Eastern Europe: East + CIS
Turkey
MENA

With these leagues, the fans get more competition and hype rivalries while orgs get better viewership and sponsors. As long as Riot make sure not to neglect certain countries (like setting up the Southern league with only Spanish teams), I think this system would work. Thoughts?

No shit when you put it to the extremes you'd probably prefer mechanics, but what I'm saying is 5 clueless players <<< 4 clueless players and an IGL to lead them. No one said a team of 5 IGLs was better

Mixwell having the game of his life helped too but I still think Weber had to have been adding some strategic value that TH were previously missing.

It just shows that Valorant lacks good IGLs right now. If your team gets better after putting an assistant coach in, clearly it was a strategic issue beforehand, not a mechanical one.

how do you let Mixwell in 2023 drop a 30 bomb on you and lose to a last second coach sub

BIG got robbed of a slot by Riot

Split: KC
Bind:
Fracture:
Pearl: RRQ
Lotus:
Haven:
Ascent:

help fill in the rest of the maps

Everyone here saying “GE could” or “RRQ could” or “GENG could” didn’t watch what happened to ONS. DRX tend to take close games as wake up calls. I don’t see them losing to anyone in the Pacific soon just because these first matches were kind of close.

0 rounds away actually to beating them, there’s a big difference between almost beating a team and almost taking a map.

George Geddes

Derke may be bald but he's pretty good at Icebox

1.02 to 10.00 odds is actually crazy lmao

least annoying FNC fan

dude the level of play this game was so low. SG really thought they were gonna win the last round by taking zero map control and waiting until the last 20 seconds to do anything.

If you put Demon1 on current FNC and they obviously beat Derke on current EG, does that mean that Demon1 is now better than Derke? Crazy how many people don’t understand that Valorant is a team game

another skin to put your silver gun buddy on

Shanghai Sharks making an esports division

DRX vs NAVI is a rivalry, carrying over the DRX vs FPX rivalry. One the NAVI players even said they wanted to make DRX their rivals in an interview

I thought they did get chosen but chose to drop out last second, cause I remember Noyn leaking that they were in before MIBR replaced them last second

https://twitter.com/leww_y/status/1652908624145006592 💀

a lot of it is shit and it just steals from actual artists without credit. 99.99% of the time you can immediately tell the art is generated too cause it just has a certain look to it (almost a soulless look), so I doubt it ever replaces real art

I just mean weakest group as in the group that did the worst in playoffs (LEV and TL both getting first rounded)

after they owned their Champs group people thought they were contenders too before we learned that they were just in the weakest group

losing to EG with Pearl and the map that you are literally best known for being good at in the pool is an all time low

EG are going to lose this map though

I was being generous if anything by giving them 4th after losing to 100T and FUR. I still have hope for them but they need to prove it

LOUD
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C9
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NRG
LEV
SEN
FUR
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100T
EG
MIBR
KRU

might piss off some 100T fans but I think they're closer to the bottom tier than the mid tier

Nah we need to see them play a non-trolling Loud first, like the Loud that faced FUR, before we can call them better than teams like DRX and NAVI

Casters talk about them like that cause you are watching the Pacific broadcast where they hype up Pacific teams. They are the best team in the region, so why wouldn’t the casters hype them up? It’s just like FNC or LOUD getting hyped up in their respective regions.

As for why they get hyped up by fans, it’s cause they are consistently top 5 in the world. Sure they don’t have any titles, but getting top 5 for the past few events still makes you a good team regardless. Not to mention the fact that a lot of OG strats that are still used today come from them.

lowkey might still be worth betting on RRQ right now. imagine having worse odds than your opponent even after winning the first map bruh

DRX also picked Fracture into GENG, seems kind of like they can’t even be bothered to do research on these other teams

our teams are actually playing like dogshit this week. T1 were lucky to even beat DFM

genuinely 50% imo, especially since there's a solid chance that one of Zeta/T1/TS lose their last 3 matches. if tiebreakers are decided by h2h though that'll be rough for GE

Korea = 13-4
Japan = 4-8
Southeast Asia = 9-12
South Asia = 2-4

Cause are teams are good? Viewership isn't everything

Pacific:
Average - 141k
Peak - 336k

EMEA:
Average - 126k
Peak - 289k

the fuck are you on about

if RRQ beat DRX today the entire Pacific deserves to get clowned on ngl

they're 1-2 against KR teams bruh, I don't know if I'd say KR killers yet

idk, that's what I use to think too but he's been a lot more consistent recently

what about Foxy9, dep, and something?

GE win this game if they keep the same playing 5 in for map 2

Shyy?

must've read my vlr post during half time

now fight the urge to buy an attack awp every round and GE wins the map

4K ROSSI MY GOAT

Drx also actually were able to get maps off of a top 3 team, 4-0’d Ange1 in Champions, and that new player makes them better than they were in LOCK//IN, so I don’t get that reasoning

You can’t say one team is better than the other right now cause you can make up bullshit logic for both sides like what you and I just did