oh? i don't follow League so didn't know that. well then probaly PSG , FB or Galata. or maybe even Besiktas? i know they had a cs team at some point and i think a lol one as well.
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oh? i don't follow League so didn't know that. well then probaly PSG , FB or Galata. or maybe even Besiktas? i know they had a cs team at some point and i think a lol one as well.
Tenstar summary, didn't post yesterday as i wasn't home and just finished watching the vod
of their last game. btw wish i didn't watch it...
TL;DR
Tenstar did what all polish CS teams love doing - they beat one of the
favorites to then go out in 2 games. they looked impeccable in their first
vitality game, to then get outaimed by case and outplayed by vita in a
rematch.
As a Tenstar supporter i gotta say - i expected tenstar to go out in a 0-2
fashion. Don't know if anyone had higher hopes for them because i never
really seen anyone discuss them but that is how they've come into this for
me.
Vitality vs Tenstar
the first map was vitality's icebox and in an amazing upset Tenstar manages
to take the lead after this map with a 13-9 victory.
tbh it seemed like both teams had a fairly limited playbook, but it was by
no means a bad game. A lot of great midround calls as well as individual
feats from both side - but Vitality picked reyna so there was no way they
can win ¯_(ツ)_/¯
.
then we saw bind and what a show that was from tenstar! they had tons of
set plays and were even mostly outaiming the vitality players. also the way
they were controlling the pace of the game on attack was great.
once they got a spike plant the round was basically over and they knew
exactly how and when to push and when to fall back. We didn't see a lot of
their defence (3 rounds) but from what they've shown it seemed to be solid
as well.
a great game, Tenstar clearly was prepared and were looking sharp that day.
Case vs Tenstar
oh boy throw it all out the window. whatever i said. just cut it in post
or something...
bind, the one they beat vitality 13-2 on? non-existent.
Tenstar couldn't take space anywhere and while in game one they
looked as coordinated as optic, in this one it was all so disjointed.
solo peeking, missing easy kills, poor positioning, poor util - it was all
that combined that led to the 3-13 result here.
.
oh my... the haven game lol.
the amount of absurd and stupidity from both sides on this map is
astounding - but tenstar definitely takes the cake. and round 19 was the
cherry on top, pls don't check out any vods to see it - you'll regret.
worst pro map i've ever seen and i refuse to elaborate. there was nothing
to praise about this one maybe except for maniek still hitting shots?
Tenstar vs Vitality(2)
Breeze had us start with a poor defence half from tenstar and the comeback
attempt on attack turning out to be unsuccesful.
not much i can say here except Stix deserves some reward for this game, he
was amazing. Unfortunately the defensive plan of Tenstar got read and
clearly countered.
on bind we saw two different versions of tenstar - one from their first
vitality matchup and another from the game vs case.
on attack they were world class, just like the first time around but on
defence? vitality came back from a 2-11 to a 13-11 with how awful tenstars
defending was. We didn't even get a clutch or something to secure the 12
point, just nothing going their way.
ultimately this game shows that tenstar might have the DRX syndrome, they
are great on attack but once we come to the defence you can see it's lacking
Schalke maybe?
eh not too hype for l1nk tbh but we'll see. maybe he truly was just not comfotable with his role on liquid and will be a beast now.
ahh shit man you got me, the only reason i made this post was to capitalize the L.
ok ima go die now, byeee!
again, a long one so beware, TL;DR right below
also, i know no one asked but i'm bored so fuck the haters.
TL;DR
Falcons has some cracked aimers but aim is not all. They are unable to
adapt to their opponents if their initial gameplan doesn't work - not to
mention the gameplan itself is often poor. and for the love of god stop
with the freaky comps if you clearly have nothing special planned for them.
Falcons coming into this tournament, had no real expectations from the
valorant fans it seems like. as winners of the MENA region they were pretty
much expected to go out quickly.
Falcons vs Angry Titans
First we went to haven, Falcons map, where it seemed like most rounds
came down to crazy solo plays. it was also like AT didn't really have a
plan going into it.
utimately Falcons had no issues with securing the map getting themselves
a comfy 13-5 victory with the help of Alvar's and Outlaw's regular
multikills.
on Bind althought the scoreline was close, in-game it seemed very one
sided for the most part.
After a slow start Angry titans started playing better and better as
Bipo, initially dying after each tp, started to get a ton of value
from his yoru wich falcons failed to adapt to. Also whenever their
initial plans would fail they would get lost in the round veeery quickly.
and with a 8-13 scoreline the map was over as Falcons showed that their
midrounding and general adaptation to the opponent might be an issue.
Breeze... breeze oh breeze... Falcons pulled out a jett+reyna is all i
have to say. fix your comp or ban the map pls.
Overall while looking sharp aim-wise Falcons couldn't match their
opponents gameplan nor could they adapt well enough to counter it.
FUT vs Falcons
we go onto ascent picked by... Falcons? yup, that's right! our pals from
MENA tried challenging Turkey on their homeground... 13-4 for FUT, not much
to say here.
now on Bind, FUT's map pick, Falcons had a savior called Spy - but his
heroics were not enough as it still ended in a 13-6 win for FUT. Also
they picked neon for seemingly no reason, what's with the comps???
simply outclassed on every level is all i can say, there were no redeeming
qualities for them here.
player thoughts
Alvar: a very good player, aim-wise at least.
Outlaw: a solid player with good awareness and util
Spy: had one crazy good map, the rest was pretty meh. maybe his
haven vs AT was fine as well?
Fr4nky: didn't show anything special.
moh: had a few good rounds but overall not much to say here.
it's a long one so i'll provide a TL;DR
TL;DR
while excel's deafult heavy style worked well vs case's aggression and bravery,
they were unable to stay focused and lost due to several bad individual
performances and many questionable decisions. against vitality the team just
seemed disconnected, rarely playing well off of each other leading to their failure
and early exit from the tournament.
they have a lot to work on if they wanna be a T1 team
In a suprising turn of events Excel is the first team to go out of the VRL finals.
Now they came in as the winners of VRL north and probably as one of the
best teams on paper, so how and why did they go out as the first team?
case vs Excel
this game first took us to ascent - Case's map pick. while Case's very agressive and reliant-on-duels style
is flashy, it was clear that XL was prepared for this map. they knew exactly how to contain their opponents
aggression, they were very passive on defence sticking together, trading and playing off of each other.
just good valorant, not much here to highlight.
as Haven rolled around, things were looking great with an 8-4 attacking half, and although wolfen started
popping off and got some mad kills - Excel handled it well. defence is where the trouble began tho'
Here first thing they failed to do was adapt.
almost every single round Case had full A lobby control by just putting wolfen there and if XL ever
peeked him, they did it 1 by 1. Alive struggling to win fights on jett across the whole map didn't help
and ultimately Case pull off the comeback and win 13-10.
well gg go next.
Icebox started off well as excel took a 5-1 lead on attack but then it all crumbled and the half ended
6-6. and since icebox is an attacker sided map case took the game with a pretty comfy 13-8 scoreline
with XL looking very uninspiring.
On this map Moe and Foxie were basically non-existent, while foxie as an IGL can be excused, Moe's
performance in this series should be unacceptable as it quite possibly lost them the game. Alive also
seemed a little out of place sometimes.
notice how i said nothing about patitek and chiwawa? well it's because these two been stellar on all
3 maps and played very well. no issues there.
Excel vs Vitality
Haven (Excel's pick) was full of weird solo plays and crazy chaotic rounds. Excel seemed to have
never had any control over the game during this map and ultimately lost 10-13.
some moments worth noting are: Moe on the sova solo holding A long or Patitek dying 20 seconds
into the round bc of pushing short as a Breach (wich also led to an unsuccesful retake later, as they
had basically no util for it). it felt like there was a general disconnect between the players during this
map, often not playing off of each other and the util provided - but Vitality liked to return the favor and
throw some rounds of their own.
Ascent was next and XL definitely had a chance after their good performance vs Case 2 days ago.
after a close game they however go out of the tourney losing 12-14 on their opponents map pick.
Here we saw a repeat of their issues from map one as the solo peeks and weird decisions continued.
Notably Chiwawa pushing a smoke in a 5v4 as Vitality was executing onto the site. Also their A postplants
were horrendous for some reason, leading to them losing i think 2 anti-eco rounds, correct me if i'm wrong.
my biggest conclusion from this map however is that chiwawa on sage is a bad fit.
individual player thoughts
Patitek and Chiwawa: one summary for both of those - they still got it. Chiwawa shouldn't play sage tho'
Alive: please take him off the jett, the amount of times he dashes forward on accident alone is awfully huge
for a player at this level and enough of a reason to move him onto a chamber or raze/neon
Foxie: Foxie has been playing well but also didn't shine too much during this tourney, hoped to see more from him.
Moe40: not sure if he should have a place on the roster tbh. he was horrible. definitely didn't bring in too much individually and his util usage wasn't anything special.
no? the guard fell off after weeks of prep, cloud9 literally had player changes mid tournament. how smool is your brain?
different story, C9 had a sudden roster change and had to readjust roles and strats. the guard simply dropped off, not comparable at all.
let'go tenstar!
tenZ > Zellsis > Trent > Sayaplayer > Dapr > Net > Valyn > Ratzam > JonahP > Shroud
at the end of the day tho the strats might matter more that individuals
oh no wait, it's NA. what's strats? I guess only optic knows.
what is that foxie slander?
they always had great rosters but none performed to the point you would expect them to. either a staff issue or some curse, someone above dissed their coach maybe that's the issue.
yup came outta nowhere
yup people seem to have forgotten how not so long ago they were the top 2 team in NA, if they put in the work to figure out their roles and get curry settled in they have a real chance (and i'd assume they did).
it's been known for ages now that what FPX are best at - is counterstrating teams. hence why i believed they were the only team from the top 4 that could beat PRX and why i wanted them in the final instead of Fnatic near the end. and i fully agree that teams from the T2 scene even should start learning how to adapt their comps to better fit them vs different opponents as sometimes a small change in agent select can win you the game.
https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/9fdeca02
people imo overrating M3C, a team with no org will not have the level of prep needed surely
hope at least you know your own fifth by now and are already practicing with them, can't wait for the announcement.
aww thank you! good night to you then i assume?
XD and who else? can't wait to see mfers say wardell
edit: nah i see it already happened lmao
the orgs? sure. but i'm pretty sure the comment was in relation to the fans perspective.
bro you good? Latam will be fighting with NA on at least and equal level. look at leviatan and kru this last masters.
who knew him? speak for yourself, not everyone watches VRL, i just started from this season and know almost no one from the previous ones.
i'd swap NRG and 100T but it's mostly how i'd put it
Victor used to be fantastic but it seems like he just keeps getting worse and worse now only waking up occasionaly
someone started watching valorant yesterday huh?
and the first thing he does is throw around cheating accusations lmao
i'd understand if you made this thread while people were shitting on tenz but now... are you really just complaining that no one is shitting on Yay?
i said it all along - loud was a fluke
yeah, it's not like Nitr0 has been shit ever since he came back to cs
Bleed xd kkkkkkk
what do you mean what's the point of them qualifying? they won so they qualified and even with a sub they can be very dangerous wich they have shown in the past
Seider isn't bad and FPX are great at making their stand-in's comfy. I see a chance for them to get out of groups with this roster
good, this way everyone will know he is an alfa male
ofc, since when was Acend the topic of this thread tho'?
They wouldn't win shit anyway, just be happy something entertaining is happening on the scene instead of shitting on Shrood now.
gonna be hype to see him play even if he gets dunked on lol
the greatest battle of our universe
casual play is fairly popular. not as popular as CS i think but it's not that far off.
most of my friends who I played cs with switched to valorant at some point, some are switching rn.
Pro play i feel like almost no one cares about (probably since we don't have a Virtus.Pro'ish team for Valorant :/)
i feel like most of us are here bc of that lol
only one of my friends kinda cares about it but not even half as much as i do
bro went from sharing opinions to throwing insults in 1 message, wtf?
i feel you man... even the ones who used to be fellow tiktok haters have now fallen to the dark side and i feel just... so alone... yet so good...
France or Spain, but i can see Argentina doing well
He is pretty good but compared to Zeek? nah man, still an L move if it happens
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