Breach of contract by the owner, consistently bad performances and low or lowest sales and viewership are not reason enough?
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| Registered: | April 15, 2025 |
| Last post: | October 8, 2025 at 8:05 AM |
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Breach of contract by the owner, consistently bad performances and low or lowest sales and viewership are not reason enough?
You would be surprised by how large the fan base for FNC is over at Asian, and even if it wasn't it's still a champions grand finals with FNC in it, it's definitely reaching 1mil
That's what I am thinking of as well but riot could justify it by saying that it is due to stage 1 being longer than kickoff and winning stage 1 should be more rewarding. Hopefully that's not the case though
Fairly low to be honest, I can see them beating uncoordinated teams with no structure and like Furia or 2G (I know they are relegated but I am including them because they were in T1 this year) but that's where the list kind of ends if we are talking about Americas.
I see people talk about them being on the same level as EG or KRU but realistically these teams have way better structure as a team and even on the individual skill department they outclass Envy.
Outside of Americas I would name Apeks, Team Secret and Global eSports as teams that they would be better than (I don't know enough about china to compare then) but even other low tier teams like Gentle mates and Zeta fall under the same category as EG and KRU.
Obviously with enough time and resources they can contest even higher ranked teams and we have already seen that top tier T2 teams can be really good in T1 like NS was so it's not that crazy to say that they could be in playoffs.
All of these sounds like changed towards the right direction, hopefully they also remove the stupid number 1 insta qualifying to playoffs for masters 2
Usually that means that the player doesn't want to stay in the org or doesn't want to play with that roster anymore so unless KRU really shake things up he is probably leaving
I wouldn't say that it is a problem regarding their individual skills, xenom and artzin might not be the best but they are fairly good and to be fair they were the only reason why Haven looked winnable for MIBR.
Their problem lies more on the fact that they play very individualistic and not as a team, you often times see players swinging and fighting alone or their utility not being synced or players being left to do hero plays on their own way too often even if it's not needed.
Unless they fix that they won't be able to beat teams like Fnatic, Paper Rex or other top teams that are far better strategically on top of having players who can shoot as well if not even better.
That's why all year they haven't beaten SEN, G2 or NRG and are 1-3 in the global stage.
And when those teams disappointed they didn't stay at the top of their region.
When PRX looked shaky they only managed a top 3 finish by going to a run at the end of the stage after barely making playoffs and lost against good teams like GEN G.
Now that FNC looked shaky in stage 2 they finished 5th-6th losing to rising teams like GX and BBL who are chasing champs or to a very good team like TL.
Compare that to G2 or SEN not looking good and playing bad and still beating all the other teams in Americas very convincingly and tell me that it is just Americas being targeted.
If the top teams from Americas can't beat the top EMEA teams (0-4 against PRX and FNC these year btw) and no other Americas teams are even challenging for that top spot how can you not worry about the region ?
Americas teams have disappointed so many times that people don't trust them anymore, no one has faith in C9 or NRG for example.
Also most of the teams are bad or inconsistent and as a result good teams like G2 and SEN don't improve and even stagnate whereas in the other regions teams like FNC and PRX are constantly pushed to improve and that is why neither G2 nor SEN have been able to beat them all year long.
Sayonara isn't yet old enough to play in VCT