decided to watch some valorant because astralis were shitting on mouz in cs, now I just watch G2 wait for some sorta miracle before going out. Now i know they are in their worst form rn, but that just screams ''slow gameplay'' and not ''perfect''

I mean they have dealt with a lot of hate and people saying they were just the biggest fish in a really small pond, so I think some toughness comes from there

not gonna lie, I don't think this game has a lot to do with mental. They barely lost to g2 on g2's map pick, then took theirs quite easily and are now dominating the decider. mental did play a part, but not as big

''I am not comparing them in terms of goat teams in their games'' = EDG are way too fresh to be even remotely compared to astralis, I just asked for the general rule of thumb that EDG basically has the best players in one of the most populated regions?

and am I correct to understand that edg is basically the best china can offer in their separate roles, kinda like astralis was the best danish talent all under one roof?

legit just in their org's history :D

asking basement dwellers not to fight over a meaningless insignificant thing, lmao

I am legit surprised by one of them being 0-2-7 at one point, like generational impact, is it like normal in valo or is that some peak util?

now I am not comparing them in terms of goat teams in their games (cuz astralis clears obviously), but I just wonder if you take player for player what roles do they take?
kangkang - device (star player)
nobody - gla1ve (IGL)
any else?

and with vitality being the only western representative, we are cooked Eurobros

bo1 12-12 with no OT, usually present in groups where you have a round robin stage where each team plays each other once and plays a bo1

is that like a prx situation where I keep myself guessing if they will finally get over the hump or I straight up know they will lose?

yes, but it wasn't hltv afaik, it was like the facebook for russian speakers :D

I guess a tech before the game even starts is the winner? It's still a timeout, right?

which still doesn't contradict the fact that shroud was at best a subpar counter strike player at his peak and that after he got kicked his team went on to win the major

hltv is doomed, donk fans have taken over, probably not sticking for long here, just some small chit chats

or just abandon chinese shills RiTo Games and join the great American Company VALVE

average was over a million in may 2023, current average is 960k in feb 2025, yeah cs is cooked

using the same logic with viewership, it kinda does? If we apply the same standard? then it means cs has been dying since november 2021? Or does common sense apply when we talk about a different game?

this arguement is so wrong on so many levels

if games like valo and cs are ''dying'' then marvel rivals died before it was even born apparently, and games like siege are in a coma

pretty sure that youtube and twitch are blocked in china

I like how OP casually dropped that the game is dying when you take valo's player count and it just smurfs all other FPS and shooters for that matter except for CS. which just makes all cs/val dying whinges even more stupid

game is dead => online still shits on whatever other games (outside of cs and lol and mobile games, and fortnite ofc) pull up

all good, just when I was typing I was so confident that there was a gender cycle as well

2025 - Death of Western Valorant, historic time, Sentinels in madrid will be the last western team to win an international before navi win one in kyiv in 2030

it was, I just watched avatar when I was 7 and now I kinda just brainfarted

I am a fucking idiot and thought it was kyoshi....

she? isn't the whole point of the avatar cycle that it goes from air to water to earth to fire and back and that the avatar is male-female every cycle? or maybe korra fucking things up changed it, idk.
EDIT: Point invalid, I messed up kyoshi and roku

POV: almost every big name in sports

I hate it when a player has a great nickname and then just abandons it and gets some generic bullshit

I am pretty sure d00mbros became erik in navi no? navi have a history of ending great nicknames (looking at you, nipl -> npl)

masters Taganrog?

I have seen something like this before, but I am not sure

what's the point of making another 1 hour long video? As if people didn't understand the first time that EWC/Masters Riyadh is iffy

i really doubt riyadh will bring drama, the only upside I see is that it will pretty much be a studio so the teams will be able to shit talk

riyadh is meh

Masters Frankfurt
Masters Kuala Lumpur
Champions Las Vegas
Thoughts? Perhaps other suggestions?

probably getting 15 rounds or less in a bo3 is a blowout. But it has a lot of extra modifiers, like getting stomped 12-2 before getting some free rounds and lose like 13-7 or 13-8. Or winning both pistols and still not cracking 8 rounds. To me even a 13-9 game can feel one-sided if you can clearly see that the losing team was just basically making estetically close map but in fact they were just stomped 12-3 or 12-4 and then they had just an outside chance of actually going all the way

in cs in order to counter strafe faster pros sometimes crouch (a.k.a donk slide), because of valo's movements less doesn't need to crouch. He is basically locked and ready for a duel whenever he does the counter strafe.

sucks that because of this valorant (and cs for the same reason) aren't as big as they could be. Like give val a replay system and give cs a proper anti cheat and these 2 games will be even bigger

game gets older, developer thinks the game is good enough not to update, results in a stronger corebase but rejects most new players who go after more active games (which is the reason why games like CS hold a consistent player base but then games like deadlock/rivals/helldivers just switch who is on top)

swiss system with 12 teams from last year and 4 teams from the ascension tournament (so for Americas this year it would be the OG franchising teams + g2 + 2g + m80 + galorys + all knights (or just host open quals in the off season). Go until 3-0 or 0-3, 4 champ team face off with 4 ascension teams, other 8 teams are based on the placement they got at last year's circuit.

glad to see rito go the volvo road and just give skins instead of actual updates, less go my drilla, ohnepixel at champs paris, here we go

loud vs optic. NA vs SA is the tale as long as esports have been a thing

Example: if you suck in cs at the beginning of the year, you can go to lower tier events to gain traction and then get stronger (cuz there are like 16 events in half a year), so you can see the floor, the ceiling and the level of the team for this stint. In valorant instead of 30 events you have 3 events in a year and that basically forces you to force changes

VP is probably a no, if riot does background checks on them, they will find an extremely incompetent management and likely ties with the russian companies. Tundra Esports are TI11 winners who are basically gaining popularity in Russia because they have started to sign a lot of russian players in their dota roster. First it was Pure and Ramzes (and ramzes has been the dota prodigy in russia for like 5 years or something, he brings a lot of hype), right now it is dyrachyo there, who pretty much is the babyface for russian dota(great dude, chill guy, great player, funny streamer, got kicked from the team of rats and is now winning event after event)

yeah but navi farmed CS and early TI's in Dota.

question is to whom? The only somewhat an outside chance is that maybe Tundra Esports buys one of these ascended teams because Tundra is really popular amongst russian speakers (has the media dota king dyrachyo rn)

team spirit are smart enough not to listen to what their fans might say. If they listened to the shit some of their braindead fans say, they would already kick zont1x just cuz he is ukrainian.