Corny. Trying too hard to force a meme. The letters don’t even match.

HYUN HIM

That’s not based on actual team skill, it’s just based on people who still in 2025 underestimate China lol.

this is not a real upset. Xi Lai and SEN are even.

i think srb made it over them because they won the head-to-head (i'm assuming).

Coming from GC has nothing to do with this, because them actually making it into challengers has nothing to do with GC at all. And by you bringing that up it kind of proves my point further. And just like you said about SRG, SAD are also "overall bad in terms of challengers level" that's why they're in promotion/relegation too. No one should be genuinely shocked if SRG beat SAD. It's an upset, sure, but shocking is a stretch.

You think it matters what character is holding the odin for it to broken lol. Do you think when you pick the gun it blocks from using it unless you're a specific character?

You're not listening to what I'm saying. I'm not talking about people who predict SRG would lose. I'm talking about the people who are shocked when they don't. Do you think any team in challengers beating SAD should be something to be shocked about? No disrespect to SAD, they have solid players, but it's not like they did good during group stage either, that's why they're in promotion/relegation just like SRG lol.

I'm not talking about them being the underdog, I already admit that. I'm talking about the people who think it's some shocking earth shattering event for SRG to win, like when they won against TSM for example.

Genuinely why did you think SRG coudn't win this lol. I'm convinced some of you just have irrational hate for women. I'm not even saying SAD aren't the favorites, i agree they are. But why do you think it's some impossibility that SRG win? SAD are not some unbeatable force.

TSM is back

Odin has become a constant meta in every region in every level of valorant… also it’s so funny you’re argument against tier 1 and tier 2 being close is “look how envy is playing this match?” As if tier 1 teams don’t look like absolute shit as well every week lmao. Just give it a rest. Tier 1 is just marketing. The teams aren’t all that.

Since week 3 of group stage till now, the only teams TSM have lost to in challengers is Cube and Envy. How are they terrible? Just saying anything to sound smart. TSM is beating teams like C9, furia and even Loud too lol. Your understanding of “tier1” is based on long established sports, valorant isn’t that. If you swap a random tier 1 player for a random tier 2 player of the same role, the teams aren’t doing that different. You can’t say the same for NBA and D1 (which is considered “tier2” basketball).

Envy is beating every team in tier 1 except maybe 3. Whatever great difference you think there is between t1 and t2 doesn’t exist. Valorant is not the NBA. This tier system is just about chance and opportunity, not a great difference in skill.

so does anyone know what happened to wildfire...

feniz the goat

The thing that confused me is the end date for this stage Swiss is listed as August 13th, so this week they play again tomorrow if they win? It’s not a one week break?

So do either of these teams still have a chance at making playoffs?

so i guess governor just left apeks and decided he wants his masters three months later lol.

So how does the university system in esports work? Obviously there are players in university teams that are not “college age” anymore. So does a university just sponsor a T2 team and have their name attached to it for marketing? Or are there genuinely players on the team that attend the school?

Whatever gap u think exists between cube (or even envy) and the average tier 1 team is not what u think. valorant is not the NBA. there's no established multi decade league structure that can easily separate the best of the best. The truth is you could choose any random tier 2 player and swap them with a random tier 1 player and the results of either team would not change that much (except for a very very small handful of players). Your expectations of "tier 1" are way too high.

So how does the university system in esports work? Obviously there are players in university teams that are not “college age” anymore. So does a university just sponsor a T2 team and have their name attached to it for marketing? Or are there genuinely players on the team that attend the school?

how are these troll comps? that's a normal 2025 haven comp and almost every team is playing waylay on corrode. Also, corrode is too new to even have a set "meta comp" anyway.

dodonut not playing duelist on icebox actually throwing.

If SRG lose this match then they play funhavers to make it back to challengers, the same team they beat to make it to challengers the first time. On the flip side , funhavers could be blocked from tier 2 by SRG twice in the same year.

did you just start watching valorant today? winthrop has been good for a long time. just because you put sentinels in front of someone's player tag doesn't make them unbeatable.

Is playoffs gonna be in studio or still online?

If SRG win this there’s a chance they play SRB next week lol

Rankers are 14-0 since they formed. They haven’t lost a single match yet. They are better than both those teams.

Free flor

if TL win this then at least one GC team is guaranteed in T2.

Losing to Winthrop is fine tbh. They are already a T2 team. This is the same core that made it to challengers last year and were mid table I think. The real test is making it from lowers.

dodonut next GC player to T1?

why are these mfs so good lmfao

Very unfortunate map 3 from xipto. Aim wasn’t even here timing wasn’t there. Lost so many winnable rounds. mibr is really good though. GGs. Xipto gonna need to make roster changes if they want to get past top 4.

"matchfixers" is such a dumb overused term. Nobody is throwing, they just got owned by better players, simple as that.

I 100 percent agree with that. My only point is there hasn't been anything crazy shown from sisu to make me feel they deserve it more than Zeta like some people are saying. If your point is they should've gotten a chance in a double elim I agree.

u have to realize that works both ways right? why are u assuming sisu would beat zeta? if anything it's 50/50. neither sisu nor zeto nor b0ba (who zeta beat twice) have shown any real challenge to xipto.

some of yall are actually so delusional. sisu are NOT better than zeta. xipto is just leagues ahead of every team here. after sisu barely won map 1 they lost 13-8 and 13-6. it wasnt close for them either.

sisu is not better than zeta or mir. xipto is just much better than everyone by far. they played the worst valornt of their lives on abyss against sisu and still almost won that map. just give it a rest lmao.

lemme just call up the CEO real quick and ask... How the fuck are we supposed to know lmao

xipto played so bad on abyss. suprised it even went to OT

do the other GC teams scrim with T1 teams too, or just them?

i agree. i don't necessarily think they would make it to ascension, but they wouldn't go winless in the league.

wasn't full sense like two matches from making it into VCT 2025? I feel like losing to full sense isn't a bad thing lol

Is anyone curious about how Xipto would do against some of the T2 teams in pacific? The reason isn't just because they're undefeated, it's how badly they beat the other teams. ZETA GC is the best GC team in Japan and is considered one of the better GC teams in general, but Xipto stomped them. Like they actually threw rounds and lost both pistols map 1 and it was still 13-5 map 1 and 13-6 map 2. And they do this to everyone in GC. The margin of victory to me is the same as how I expect a tier 2 team would do against most top GC teams. I wanna see them do a show match against NAOS or something just to see what happens. It feels like they're just phoning it in GC lol.

The reason for esports in general is the same as the other person said, not enough women playerbase interested. For Valorant specifically it's a bit more complex since it's the esport with the highest amount of women players. The short answer is CSGO. Valorant is a spiritual successor to CSGO, that's why most T1 pros are ex CSGO players. And of course CSGO is a male dominated esport, so most of the top pros naturally are men. However, the more years the game has, and the more distinct it becomes for CSGO, this gap should decrease as long as it keeps its high women playerbase. I dont have the exact numbers, but I willing to bet Valorant has the highest percentage of women by far compared to any other epsorts title. Also, all the stuff people like to say about "reaction time" has no basis in science. For the majority of adults who regularly practice hand eye coordination (for example playing video games), there is no virtually no difference in physical attributes between gender (or even age for the most part). So don't believe anyone who says bullshit like "men have a biological advantage in video games", because it's untrue.

BEST VAL MATCH ALL TIME SO FAR

even with this argment ur comment makes no sense because c0m top fragged this match... In the map where aspas underperformed c0m did what he was supposed to. so blaming this map loss on him is idiotic.

how can u watch this map and blame c0m for the loss? u dont think 13/18 from ur best player is the bigger issue than losing a 1v3? yall are braindead.