Much better condensed version than mine and completely accurate

If we're going purely of off earnings you need to add Ethan's CS earnings

Don't mind at all. It's a little complex so in order to understand I'm gonna have to give you the full context of the history of KOI and it might be long af so sorry but here we go xD.

KOI was created not too long ago. 2022 was their first ever full year, absolutely massive since they 1 due to Ibai, but very unexperienced so they started slow only with Valorant and LOL tier 2.

For 2023 Riot accepted them into VCT but wanted to grow more so they merged with Rogue so that they could now be in LEC. But the merger was a complete disaster, it was broke from very early on, the management was disastrous and Ibai even ended up having to pay 2 mill out of his pocket in Salaries because Rogue even quit paying. That being said the roster was good, I believe they underachieved a lot.

During the offseason of 2023 while making the roster for 2024 Rogue and KOI decided to split up, and they didn't even know who was gonna keep the spot or who had to pay for anything so Barbar literally couldn't make a roster and obviously the season turned out a disaster

But after the split up, since as I said KOI was very inexperienced as small they decided to merge again, but this time with someone they already knew. Movistar Riders, arguably one of the most successful orgs in Spanish history, this is specially good because they had what KOI was missing, a good sporting structure built through years that had been successful before. On top of that they also merged with MAD who also brings reliable money and the LEC spot

Unlike the other merger this one has already been very successful, making Worlds with 4 rookies in LOL or making the last Major in Cs. The people in charge of those projects are for the first time gonna be also in charge of KOI Valorant 2025 so this is the first time they can operate with money, time, and already proven people behind it

Hope it makes sense sorry if it's too long lmao

They doubled the spots for split 2? Really? Or am I understanding it wrong. If so that's crazy ngl but reaffirms me on what I'm saying 10x more

Say we bro, I've never understood why it's not done more often in esports. At least in spanish we always say we referring to our team

Do you really think it would hurt the viewership? Even if it was only to hate watch? Because I look at it through the prism of my league and I think the exact opposite. Last year if there was a Zeta vs Five I wanted to watch the game but I didn't care much who won which makes it sort of boring, in the other hand if they played SAW or DSYRE I would be much more interested in the game. Maybe it's just me tho

Look it's not ideal, opening back the CIS league is, but since that's not happening I really think is not that bad at all. That being said the conversation is pointless because they already decided xD

Who tf says kamo and starxo will be on the team next year. Building from 0 a project, just like TH or KC did last year

Could have said the same when he joined TH

It’s okay bro, breath

I seriously doubt so, unless Katsumi speaks Spanish they must be communicating through Valorant calls

I mean Jp gets 8 spots in their league, if you had the 2 Mongolian teams you would still have 6

Meanwhile in SEA countries like Indo, Philippines, Thailand etc already have only 1 or 2 spots and they have to accommodate Mongolia on top of that. While realistically, Mongolia does not have any more reason to play there than they do in Jp

Yeah people don’t really watch Yt content for teams, I think most fans don’t even know it’s a thing xD

Realistically with the new money rules those videos are gonna disappear for most teams

You would hate it more if your country had literally 1 spot in VCL instead of 8 and on top of that they gave it to Mongolia.

They qualified in Jp, Ik you would hate it but as a neutral outsider it really makes way more sense

Oh shit forgot they were included in the merger. Jp then, purely because of the spot thing, SEA is too tight

That’s literally the same amount of views the last NAVI video has. GX fanbase is not the biggest in the league but going off of Yt videos is the dumbest thing ever

Also GX content is actually way above average, they do lack big amount of fans tho, they have work on that. But at least gotta give it to them the ones they do have are some of the best at the arena

Hk, way more spots there
Also Ionlywatchvcj might kill me but Jp or Kr wouldn’t have been that bad either from a sporting perspective, logistically might not make much sense

Wasn’t Chovy supposed to be the main choker tho

But the didn’t choke MSI which Ig makes this year different

I have several concerns here. Is the ping to SEA much worse than it is to HK??

And why SEA? I understand the league is already deluded so there would be less criticism but isn’t SEA already tight on spots after the merge?

GenG would come close if they win Worlds this year which Ig it’s somehow likely

That whole argument stops making sense when you realize they also choked against FNC and KC

Well VIT fucking loves having 27 coaches so it might be as assistant or something because what I heard is VIT's trying to get Bonkar

Are you sure he's the new head coach? Is that oficial?

And what it's actually time for is for Sayf to fucking embrace the duelist not to sign a tier 2 one who's never gonna be as good as him

bro's never gonna get over it

Flynn is a great summary of what's going on but it's mostly relying on other people's reports. Anonimotum is the only guy that I consider 100% accurate

Exactly, it’s and the upper team is supposed to be better and have 2 bans. It’s really really not that rare

Exactly, that’s literally what I said, read it again. I think you missed the part “If we assume both of the teams haven’t lost in groups which is not rare”. From that point on there is a 50% chance (realistically it’s much more) of getting an undefeated winner

You know you didn’t think twice about what you just said because if you did you would realize if that’s what they wanted they would have hired goked or another Spanish coach

Also you do see Gorilla just placed second in EMEA while Doombros couldn’t make playoffs? Hiring a coach based on results it’s dumb, you don’t see 1% of what happens behind the scenes and who’s merit is what, that’s what the interviews and references are for

Not really. If we assume both of the teams that make the finals haven’t lost in groups which is really not that rare at all, there’s more than a 50% chance to get an unbeaten champion

And why is that

Nowhere near best duelist in the world conversation until the very day of the final

Ig so but they just signed Gorilla so it’s not an option anymore

This is the first year they have both a competent sporting directive and money so there’s reason to believe

Why does everyone keep saying that, no they’re not xD

Gorilla does not speak Polish so it ain’t happening

Not on international he hasn’t, even this tournament until the finals he’s been good but nowhere near close best duelist in the world

I think they’re fighting with Navi for Bonkar, that’s what the rumor is

Interesting

I don’t think it has much to do with getting the bag. If Vitality wanted to retain him they have 10 times the money KOI has

Vitality has way too many coaches xD

Yup so it wasn’t any of the obvious ones as expected

Oop, it’s out, expected soon but not this soon

Very interesting. I trust a lot the criteria of the people at KOI in charge of making this decision. Unlike other years were the people in charge of the roster were um, questionable, this year after the merge with MRS and MAD that the sporting director and staff in charge of this are some of the most competent people around and been successful a thousand times.

About the process they have interviewed about 30/40 people through several rounds, some made it further than others. I imagine most of the ones mentioned were on that list. From KOI itself, we got some names of coaches that were on the list but have been discarded like Doombros, some of the spanish guys like goked/thinkii and a couple others I really can't remember. We'll see Ig

Well you don't really get the Ballon D'or for scoring 5 in the champions league final if you haven't scored the rest of the year if the analogy makes sense

Spanish community. In this case SergioFerra KOI content creator

I wouldn't be so sure, I think there's a lot of factors into it

I'm saying it's NA based on how they are talking about it and the clues they have given, not necessarily because I think the EMEA market is weak. Who are the coaches you rate highly in EMEA. Because I do not know who it is, but I do know a bunch of people that are not the ones for sure

yes but rumor is VIT and NAVI are fighting to get him

It seems they have signed a new coach, we will probably know who it is soon but rn I get the feeling it's someone from NA

Iago aspas is not a baiter bro's assist was crazy the other day

Ardiis is the most British person I’ve ever seen

Suarez would def be a biting duelist

Ig there are some things we can agree on sometimes huh xD