Really? Then starki needs to be picked up asap, Zeek can IGL too tho, but even if not he is done more than enough merits

And he IGLs is extremely valuable. However he has always been this good, the reason he is not on tier 1 is not gameplay related. It will be a matter of what perception teams have of him now. Honestly I think he has paid he's dues and earned it already but it's risky

If Inter wins the final he definitely can. If PSG win I think Demebele's case is stronger. That being said, it's purely because of the production and results, Lamine is the best player in the world and it ain't close

EP are very toxic in scrims and stuff too apparently

brother is he your cousin or something

No Comeback Loita Larok are all the same age, just different months. If Loita was 16 now it would mean he was 15 last year and you need to be 16 to play in VCL.

Loita turns 18 the 24th of September

They weren't nearly as good as they are now. They were 16 year olds at the end of the day, a year makes a big difference

He is the biggest Spanish/latin figure in Valorant, is he insanely charismatic? Not exactly no, he's a good content creator tho. Why is Tenz the biggest figure for the English speaking? It's hard to explain Ig. Mixwell did a very good job of building his brand even while playing and it paid off.

It's a streamer org but it's a situation, it's not nearly as big as other streamer orgs like BBL KC M8 KOI etc, but it's a Valorant built fanbase. A KC fan might watch Valorant because of Kameto but doesn't have to be a Valorant fan, all Mixwell fans are Valorant fans and that is a very unique kind of fanbase

Rose is 21 Crewen 20 and the other 3 are 17 turning 18 this year. Comeback is the only one that turns 18 before split 2

I think they're just upset in general for that replayed game and honestly fair

Imo they're bellow TH/FNC and above NAVI, somewhere close to BBL/TL/KC/FUT tier

Yeah that's kind of what I was expecting. Average tier 1 firepower with top tier flexibility and comms. It turned out to be top tier firepower with top tier flexibility and comms

Not really, most of the time the VCL team is gonna win anyway, that's how it's been historically, no way in hell any of the upcoming teams beat Barça, they have a chance against KPI

what team is KPI even playing with? Same as last split or did they make changes?

Nah plenty of players with VISA issues get picked up. He didn’t try out for that many orgs, I think he wasn’t pretty close from KC the previous year but that’s it.

He wasn’t a big tier 2 name at all, if you to the post when it’s leaked by anonimotum, most people have no idea who he is

I was calling for Avez VCT when not a lot of people were last year, I really believed he was ready. However I don’t think even his biggest fan could have predicted what he’s doing. This mfs has been dropping 30 per map for a good while now it’s insane

Kamo has been the bets player on TL this past month, but sure go ahead, replace him with fucking xuss

Well handled by EP, this is a lot like what I think it would have looked like yesterday

They deserved to win, def not a 13-0

I can't imagine how tilted EP must be rn, if KOI starts to snowball it's gonna be rough

Tf does KOI have to do with anything

Well it's not like it can get much worse

What 13-0? never happened, I don't know what you're talking about

there's rumors VIT considered moving on from Sayf but I think they're gonna end up keeping him

By that logic Lock In is the greatest tournament of all time

why, it happens in plenty of tournaments no?

I agree, you don’t need to be a criminal to be an asshole

Don't know if flor did or didn't do it but the fact that so many people came out saying, this does fit what I know from Flor, is at the very least very concerning. Either because what type of person Flor is or because everyone around her was so extremely jealous

what's the official excuse tho

I meant they're not playing 7 matches because KOI is winning just for the sake of chaos

Zeek Kiles and jas all have experience in the matter after the Joblife/Vivo Keyd incidents

Why are you here?

"I pushed dish with my knife out"

I suppose it’s ilegal but correct me if I’m wrong, out of all the players caught match fixing/cheating in games like cs I have never heard of any facing criminal charges, just bans. I could be wrong tho

Pika disconnected on round 3 of Sunset, they called for a tech pause but the admin didn’t want to remake the round (according to the rules he should have).

They realized they made a mistake after the map was over. So since they had screwed KOI the admins solution is to now screw EP by making them replay the whole map the day after xD

Who says they’re playing 2 matches, 2-13 incoming trust

That you use existing precedent to make consistent rulings.

If they can't make consistent rulings what makes you think the past rulings were even correct in the first place tho? If the first ruling was incorrect every other ruling in the future has to be incorrect?

We currently do not consider mental when it comes to rules, so we would be introducing it into the rules entirely.

The mental thing is just 1 example, but there are more. You cannot just give 1 round because of the incident, what if they EP won the next gun round too because they had ults thanks to the incident round? How do you factor that in? Or the economy, we give KOI 1 round for economy, what if EP wanted to do a forced round instead of eco? What if they were gonna save 2 guns the previous round and they were gonna have enough money?

We're half agreeing but giving a specific number of rounds is just not accurate/fair imo, the only way of making a 100% objective and fair decision every time with no speculation is removing all of those factors, and the way you do that is by going back to the incident

Indeed you do need a consistent ruling you cannot just speculate. Which is precisely why you go back to the round where it happened. Absolutely ANY other solution IS speculating with how many rounds it did or didn't affect which no, is not as simple as having a formula for economy, I do not buy that.

You're basing your point on the fact that you shouldn't speculate and be consistent but you're not realizing going back to the moment of the issue is the most consistent and less speculative solution of them all

How do you determine the amount of rounds affected due to mental?

And how do you determine the amount of rounds affected due to economy? 1 round for economy? Who says they win the next round? What if they do and send them to eco, cycle ults and win 3 more?

You say taking mental into account can't be done because it's just speculation. But it's the other way around, that is exactly the issue. You can't determine how an issue like this affected the rest of the game in so many levels which is why you don't speculate and say "oh it affected 2 rounds" or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6, who knows, instead you do not speculate by just replaying from the issue

Btw Imo the correct solution was putting out a public statement apologizing for the mistake and probably firing the mf that took made the decision and then just moving on

fair ig

CGN I can understand but how is Focus better than KOI?

The only way of justifying it is the mental. KOI got fucked on round 3 and they knew they had been screwed over while playing the whole map, Acend weren't aware of the issue until the end of the game as far as I remember

Removing rounds that affected sounds like a terrible solution to me in any situation, the game is completely different after something like that happens. Keeping in mind that it should not be replayed now, I do think playing from the 2-0 is the correct choice.

It's kind of like in football, imagine there's a very clear pen on min 5 and it's not whistled. The game then ends 1-1. Is it fair to just assume with the pen it would have been 2-1? No, the entire game is different the strategy is different the mental is different

nah they would just continue the game 11-0 if they considered that the problem

Don't understand what you mean, the issue was on round 3. The round 3 disconnect issue is the official version and from the KOI side they have not mentioned persisting issues through the rest of the map. https://x.com/valesports_emea/status/1926394760685596934?s=46

KOI 3-0 xD

It depends on how it affects each team, they could both comeback wanting revenge for the unfair decision or they could be so tilted that they don't play correctly. I think the biggest winner here is BBL PCFC (Although tbf I don't wanna take anything away from the I think they were gonna win anyway)

Imagine KOI wins vs EP.....

This is rulebook, it's very clear https://x.com/SergioFFerra/status/1926342371723079786
And proof that the condition was met https://clips.twitch.tv/AliveDependableCarabeefMVGame-s4VjR0O6ugD3mQN9

KOI did get screwed, but that does NOT mean replaying this is the correct solution

it was def a SA accusation, and yeah they handled it really well. But for like a day or 2 his the public perception was fucked and he's totally fine now which is my point. It can be done if the parties involved are competent

Basically what happened was that Pika disconnected at the start of the first half bonus round. It was within the first minute and no damage was dealt as the rulebook specifies, round should have been remade. However the admin said he did not "hear" KOI calling for Tech pause. KOI offered proof that they did call for it in time but the admin said nah, no replay for no reason at all. After that they were 4-0 down and fuming.

Honestly I believe they were gonna lose anyway but the admin did fuck them over pretty bad. If I had to guess, I'd say EP would have won like 13-7 or something.

However man, there's mistakes that just can't be fixed, this is NOT the solution

As I said xD

Brother are the admins fucking retarded?

A good old classic with Kiles and Zeek being on the other side of that replayed game for that Vivo Keyd incident to add some irony and spice

(Nah in all seriousness not the same at all, EP is not at fault here, they didn't do anything wrong)

told you it was more serious than it looked xD

Nah but seriously what are they thinking, imagine if KOI wins tomorrow......