Hopefully we bounce back

I agree with this, I'm just saying who would we swap s0m for on the current roster?

Under NRG players currently, I'd say yeah his smokes > ethan but s0m isn't an IGL (yes ik his igling is mid)

I'm not discounting his success I was really happy to see him get the stage he deserved after watching NRG pre franchise struggle despite s0m being insanely consistent on every role imaginable on that team. He'd be a better smokes player on most of these other teams, but Marved > s0m at face value.

This is actually smart, but I can't fault then for tryna make Demon1 expand

he got his win, he is y0y no more, y1y is more accurate

yay catching strays is crazy

Marved > S0m, as much as I love s0m he's a step under most of these guys. Does it suck that he got dropped, yeah 100% I thought it was a dumbass move but I get why he wanted to go to streaming instead.

Its a combo of both, NRG calls are pretty shit right now compared to other maps and Kingg is reading them like a book

first map, yeah they're getting shit on but everyone per usual jumps the gun

map picks get traded all the time

yeah same

fr fr

2-1 NRG hopium

Ethans been solid his entire career in both Val and CS?

Players like Jawg and Boostio were also good enough to be Tier1 Val in NA since like 2021 despite the EG org always being a mid pack team pre franchising.

Facts

EG and MIBR > Furia

Runi is solid, I'd say he's one of those good enough to be franchise level but not a superstar player, shouldn't have dropped him to begin with imo.

As for Moose I'd say he's a really underrated player, glad he got his shot in franchising but I wouldn't have thought he would be the first SR/LG core member to make it when Bdog and Mada exist

Yeah that is true but it could very well just be an off day, upsets happen

GE won today, Bleed won, C9 won

Friendly reminder they lost to TS in regular season last year too

Likely one bad game they'll still be top 3 Pacific

Yeah last week

Upset weeks

Boomer

This is just lying on bros name at this point, even in map 1 when Bleed threw he was constantly rooting for Yay and calling him his king, he was critical when bleed played like shit some rounds and did make the bl00d and y0y references but he was rooting for him and just giving his input the whole time, you weren't watching the same stream apparently

we dont claim him

I went to sleep after map 1 because they decided to throw a 9-5 lead and thinking it was joever, just for them to win cleanly the next 2 maps? wtf bleed

I went to sleep after map 1 being disappointed in them throwing, and they decide to WIN!?

disband

yeah i'll give credit to the rural parts of cali and yeah its got some good natural beauty thats some of the best in the country, wouldn't say its THE best though.

You can find non americanized places all over the country tbh but thats always a plus when it does exist nearby

northern cali like western washington both are nicer natural areas but at the same time midwest clears

midwest > east coast > south > northeast > west coast

Washington is dogshit compared to the rest of the US, but yeah its better than Cali

Respectfully first strike trophy is the most meaningless trophies in all of val when only 20% of the players from it are even in tier 1 or 2 valorant since then.

Streamed to China or the whole world?

SEN or NRG right this minute, with potential for LOUD or LEV to surpass them depending on how the split goes

People really forget pros are humans too

Source?

C9 clown org

Boostio and Jawg were always solid/good players in pre franchising EG for as mid as that team was. They've been good players since like 2022, c0m kinda came outta nowhere and ya I'll say he might be a one hit but its a lil early

atleast i wasnt the only one thinking that

yeah FNS going on record to saying he'd want to play with s0m again would make getting the full team together again hard. I'd always be down to see those 2 make a comeback as well somewhere along the line.

Demon1 as of right now is miles above Yay and unless we see a return to form I can't say in good faith it'd be worth it, don't blame him for wanting to play after c9 cucked him

this

whats 17 more years?

I was alot more active here in 2022 and early 2023 so thats why I say it. Still see it here and there even today

We look mid on Breeze, but Vic Raze was pretty good on Split

i'm not denying that they have more fans. I also don't use the site a whole lot, 100t always has had a good amount of delusion among the self pity

FNC and Navi were moreso last year compared to this year from what I can see.

Either way baiters are baiters and ruin peoples perceptions on fanbases here.

my point is they've got just as many baiters that ruin the fanbase to make them seem deluded.

Yeah, but seems like every team also has the delusional baiters

SEN, 100T, FNC, Navi fans exist

Way to jump to assuming off like 3-4 bait accounts that we're all like that

thats just every fanbase on this site is it not?

Marved all the way, Mindfreak hasn't been in his prime iceman form since 2022, not just saying that cus flair bias cus I really like PRX and MF