Yeah had a good feeling that if a team going against prx has a good ascent then they should definitely pick it vs them, ascent is a map which is just not built for prx no matter how many comps they run they will get anti stratted. As for the permaban, ngl I think its gonna be ascent again. They floated corrode against xlg and abyss agains gx so I think they definitely can play these maps at any given time just not the most confident in them to pick it

Well time for ascent to go back to the permaban for prx

working for me

Yeah it's just that I don't really think GX's bind is strong enough to have the confidence to pick it against Prx, for xlg bind was literally their strongest map so they had to pick it in case of GX they have stronger maps, as for corrode I also said that there's a chance prx pick corrode after seeing GX's corrode against Sen i really want prx to play corrode once ngl

Hmm well ig if we go by cloud calling then yep maybe they will pick sunset but atleast for now I'm of the belief that picking sunset would end up being same as xlg bind where it will be close but difficult to win it out, ofc that doesn't mean GX can't win on sunset it's just that until prx lose there I would have to stick with GX picking ascent as more better choice than sunset, should be a good sunset tho if it's picked. Thanks a lot for ur opinion tho!

hmm I don't see prx letting both abyss and corrode through and also GX picking bind is a bit unlikely

Yepp thats why I pred that gx picks ascent as its very anti strattable but its also because I wanna see prx play ascent again and see whether they cook something(not the russian) up on attack or not

Yeah I mean a garage fight on haven will be pretty fun lol gx would want to shut garage down while prx would want to fight garage as much as possible would be fun

Ngl haven has the potential to be a banger if GX picks it GX is really good on attack while prx is really good on defence it would be a fun map

Yeah but the thing is it's been 2 yrs yet their sunset is still so dominant while their ascent has always been too easy to antistrat, believe it or not prx have a total of 41 different comps on ascent that's how much they get antistratted every time on that map, playing sunset is the same as xlg picking bind last game, these maps are really good for prx so it will be difficult but yeah it can happen for sure

GX bans Lotus
Prx bans Abyss
GX picks Ascent
Prx picks bind
GX bans corrode
Prx bans haven
Sunset decider
Lowkey could see prx pick corrode instead after seeing GX corrode against Sen then maybe bind as decider

Prx bans corrode
Xlg bans Sunset
Prx picks Lotus
Xlg picks Haven
Prx bans Abyss
Xlg bans Ascent
Bind decider

xlg probably will pick abyyss/corrode whichever prx don't ban so they will have to show new stuff anyways I believe

ahhh okay got it so like if the top 2 teams are tln/ns/dfm then its possible right thank youu

umm looking at the pacific playoffs bracket seeing that one of rrq/t1/geng are definitely confirmed to get eliminated at 7/8 then is prx not already qualified for champs now? As there are only 4 teams who can potentially beat them on points and one of them will be eliminated early at 7/8 thus isn't it guaranteed that prx will be the automatic 4th highest on points?

Yes and no one discredited fnc for that why are u trying to discredit other teams win then With ur amazing logic lol it's always funny looking at threads after a popular team loses

What a logic lmao fnc won against loud in lock in and lost to them in the rematch at champions does that mean fnc doesn't deserve lock in? Lmao according to your logic no team should ever lose against a team whom they once beat because apparantly in rematch other teams can't win 😂😂

They love viper too much harbor viper clove omen chamber the ultimate best comp no initiator no duelists easy wins 🫡

I'm not making excuses I said that prx were looking to win in ewc too but they were only gonna use their Toronto strats in the tournament u can see the matches they didn't try anything new I'm not saying they lost on purpose but I'm sure that they definitely didn't scrim that much on the maps and 100% fnc and geng were better there are no doubts

I don't think anything's gonna change in stage 2 haven will still remain the permaban ascent will always be a weak map for prx tho I have full trust they already have another comp ready on it as it's very rare of prx to pick the same ascent comp after losing again fnc specifically for ascent they never repeat an ascent comp on losing idk how their bind and corrode gonna look like

Idk why but there's a high chance they have been practicing corrode during ewc I only think this because in an interview forsaken said that they practiced icebox once so while I do think they were looking at ewc to win too there's a high chance they are practicing bind and corrode instead trusting their Toronto strats because they literally didn't do anything new on any map

I mean when they are winning against everyone can't say their lotus is not good in all honesty the only reason lotus is getting so close is because prx has forgotten how to win pistols

lol if it goes to 5 maps and split is decider its 100% going to be a banger

Prx bans Haven and ascent
Prx picks Pearl
Fnc picks icebox
Prx picks sunset
Fnc picks lotus
Split decider
this is the veto which should be happening
the only different thing could be if prx bans icebox then 2nd map is ascent
Now the veto I want for a banger match is Split Lotus Pearl Icebox Sunset

in post match conference after wolves win alecks made it quite clear that they don't want to play haven so he's glad he is going from upper bracket, unless he's baiting he made it clear haven will remain the permaban

no way that's true sure in some rounds but in the most important rounds he has been really good like on lotus at 11-12 getting the kill on stairs also in g2 game last round as well getting kill at stairs he's been pretty good in the most important rounds even on ascent on last eco he got 3

Yeahh there's really nothing obvious about the bans and picks for today's map vetos

In first case of prx banning first there's no way they don't ban ascent, there's simply just no way they would let ascent float if given the chance to ban it and I also can't see wolves banning lotus first I think the last case is pretty likely of pearl split and sunset but yeah I agree with teams risking not banning haven first if they have the first ban

I also think split would be better but I have seen sliggy mention this multiple times that out of all the maps he didn't like wolves lotus so maybe that's why they pick lotus that's my thought behind it

PRX bans haven
Wolves ban Icebox
PRX picks lotus
Wolves picks ascent
PRX bans sunset
Wolves bans split
Pearl decider
No clue how this veto is gonna go both have haven as there permaban if prx gets first ban maybe they risk and bans ascent hoping for wolves to ban haven then the map veto will look completely different and if wolves has 1st ban maybe they take risk and ban something else hoping for prx to ban haven, idk this veto is a bit too confusing

yeahh if the map veto goes something like ascent split sunset then there's a high chance sen wins if they win ascent but if they somehow lose ascent then it could be a mentally rough loss as it would be a surprise pick for sen

lotus is sen's best map no way they ban it

Yeahh I mean I see sen sunset a bit better than prx so I won't be surprised if it gets picked also last year both teams had the best sunsets too but sen destroyed prx on sunset in madrid so idk it would be a good match if they play on sunset I feel like

Yeahhh like any of the maps other than haven and ascent is decently good enough for both teams so any of the other 5 maps getting picked should potentially give us a banger match. I say potentially as most of the games predicted to be a banger this tournament has ended 2-0 lol

ikr that's why I also have that feeling that sen may pick ascent

sen looks really good on sunset too if sen picks lotus then maybe it will be decider

Sen bans icebox
Prx bans haven
Sen picks Sunset
Prx picks split
Sen bans pearl
Prx bans ascent
Lotus decider
A sneaky feeling that sen might pick ascent as a surprise pick

I also heavily doubt it as I also do map veto preds before prx games but like now everytime there's one pick which is a little bit bold just like in prx vs g2 when they actually picked split(which they literally lost in prvs game vs liquid)and left icebox as a decider so yeah its just a bold prediction of ascent getting picked

I have a sneaky feeling sen may pick ascent as a surprise pick and lotus is left as a decider both of these teams have played a lot and showed a lot already they might need to surprise the other team with a surprise pick

Yeah I mean I don't understand it like for sure as all the 1st seeds lost there maybe something disadvantages or something like that but like I did not see a single person saying until they all lost so like if they tweet it now ofc everyone will think that they are making excuses even if they are right. No one is even eliminated till now atleast finish the tournament first

I just noticed that every china team's matches in this masters had atleast one 8-4 half time score. In fact there have been 9 8-4 half time scores out of the 16 maps cn teams have played in this masters

hey I atleast predicted lotus correctly lol

Its a double edged sword just yesterday all people and analysts were saying that 1st seed is beneficial because firstly in a new meta all will have new comps and they will get to see all new stuff of swiss teams but a disadvantage of no reps in new meta

Haha yeahh I mean there's nothing wrong with having fun and I prefer that they have fun but from the TL game they should learn that even when they are having fun they should not lose their focus from the game otherwise they will get snowballed

Yeah and honestly for this I gotta blame alecks a bit too that even at the 12-9 timeout he didn't tell them to go A which makes me think that prx as a whole couldn't figure out that A only had one player untill the ot round where something understood that even on making so much noise no one is clearing A(not a hate on alecks btw this was the only thing which frustrated a lot of people watching the game)

True but prx really need to figure this out every time someone from the opponent starts becoming a raid boss prx starts losing a ton of rounds even in the dfm game when akame became a raid boss in that last pearl map prx almost lost so they need to think of a way around these things

Yeahh they just gotta fix their attack a little bit they couldn't figure out till ot that they should go A

bro I'm not disagreeing with you that g2 is fundamentally better but whether they like it or not they have to ban 2 maps so when predicting map veto there's no point in considering who's fundamentally better its not like they can abstain from banning a map just because they can fundamentally beat prx on any map

ehhh it was still 12-3 at one point I still think they are good on it and just hard choked the lead in TL game

yeah idk trust aside I cant see them changing comps on it anytime soon they have been sticking with this comp since last year and has been getting success on it and I agree with pearl or lotus