Not sure but it is harder for indians to get visa in general as the process is too rigorous because there are a lot of applicants

L list, clearly Avova is way better

looks like new coach?

it's all debatable, hard to say who is better objectively. My point was there's not enough data to suggest how good top indian players would be compared to other APAC players

i think deathmaker is probably the best in SA but we have to see him play against teams from other countries before we can say where he stands in APAC

oh okay i thought saya would be considered an import too since he was playing in NA

then how does t1 have so many NA players wont they be counted as imports even if they had them before franchising?

how many imports are allowed in a roster?

hes not overrated tho but yes not underrated either

not copium but hopium and theres nothing wrong with it dont let vlr make u think otherwise

lil bro couldn't even wait a half before jumping to conclusions

there is no buyout that's what free agent means

I believe 100T bounces back and wins this one (although, they may win even if they continue to play like they did at lock in lol)

This sounds about right

I meaaaan there's rlly no argument against india here lol we may not have won a trophy in years but the team is pretty consistent and has consistently the highest win rate outside of knockout games

not even 2 series are completed yet wdym we have given them chances LMAOOO

I think you should also take into consideration that we don't know as much as the teams do themselves. Maybe they have been good on those maps in scrims. But I do agree, on most days and by most teams, this would be called trolling the map veto.

If im not wrong he's not old enough to be in franchising

it depends on the individual just like saadhak decided to stick to loud out of loyalty

this is the definition of copium right here

out of all the players not mentioned already, Heliff and Deathmaker from VLT pretty good

This map from LE was just total shit I hope other teams aren't like this

Man is too good for SA
Level of play sooo bad from LE Indian teams should have been better than this by now

That's like saying I got more kills than an ascendant that one game so i should be ascendant

I bet he got a better gaming chair now

GE pretty good org
Just need to win more :')

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tbf they missed out on LANs by the barest of margins

I think instead of automatic relegation of the team that places last, riot reviews every orgs progress over the years and how they are contributing to the scene. If an org is out of line in any aspect they receive a warning to fix their system if they continue to lack, they're terminated from franchising. Franchising is a long term vision of riot and i dont think they should take harsh decisions after just one event.

You're being overly critical, do you want GE to play with their old roster that couldn't beat any SEA team and embarrass themselves at the global stage? The truth is Indian talent just isn't there yet. The GE management has always taken decisions best for the Indian ecosystem in the long run I trust them to find a way. The current roster looks potent and after dealing with the language barriers and the role stuff they could be a really good team.

VLT roster looks good enough to compete honestly. If the imports work and they develop synergy they can surely challenge for a franchising spot if not this year then next year. Other than VLT it's very unlikely. Personally, I think this won't work well and they'll keep changing rosters.

Well not to shit on EG, but those games weren't as close as the scorelines suggest. On Haven it easily could have been 13-6 13 -5.

i'd like to join if there's still room lol

GE CEO has said in his streams that rossi and lf are still not in korea
idk if they well be there during this match or not

rossi might not play they're having visa issues so they might not be in korea during this match

lmaooo love the honesty
i doubt GE actually reaches masters tho i'd say drx tln and prx going

lock in rankings
DRX
GenG
TLN
TS
ZETA
GE

how i think it'll play out over the year
DRX
PRX
TLN
GE
GenG
T1

but at the same time he has pulled off incredible plays in crunch situations a number of times, malding itself is not the problem it is when you let it cloud your thinking

If that's a list for the long term with them taking into account how the teams can turn out to be this year then it makes sense somewhat if it's just for lock in then probably the worst tier list out there

I have to agree, the 2021 one does a much better job at capturing the stories that went down and it is much more emotional. Almost zoned out a couple times watching the 2022 one.

GE pretty W org fr tho

me laughing like a madman watching ardiis laugh like a madman

omg vasswood knew sen was shit before everyone else!!!!! u have my approval!! Enjoy your day now!!

scream

always rooting for underdogs unless they're against a team i rlly like LETS GO TS

fax

W take

This thread proves vlr isn't for people with 100+ IQ

u guys need to shut up lol most of the indians know he's good but not THAT good hes himself said in streams before that hes not even top 15 in APAC stop spreading unnecessary hate

Based on the show so far and predicting the future matches this event i would say

1. DRX
2. GenG
3. Talon
4. T1
5. Zeta
6. GE
7. PRX (basically because of their horrendous performance against c9 but i think they will bounce back in the pacific league)
8. DFM
9. TS
10. RRq