Where did I say Leo and Shao shouldn't be there?
I just said aspas is 1, and you could make an argument for Mako, Kingg and MAYYYBE K1ng, I didn't say anything about Shao, Leo and derke, i talked about people that are not on the list and could make it.
I said khalil might get there after a while but not now.

yay is bigger than the g2 org all esports included, no one cares bro

Lock/IN doesn't count as a ring

Botke shouldn't even be in the conversation, he's been overshadowed by tenZ, nAts, Yay and now aspas throughout his career, he don't deserve to be in the conversation.

Bring back Will and Sean, Mikes is not a real coach and cryo should be benched until he can shoot people again which he hasn't been doing.

Aspas is 1 for now.
People you migh argue get in there: Mako, Kingg and maybe K1ng?
Sayf could get there by the end of the split, maybe Khalil too, but not now.

No he will, you think Yay can't outaim oxg pwny?
They might lose, but he's still going to win most of his aim duels and perform well

33 bomb, godlike

he's back, that was one of the best rounds i've seen from anyone in a while

Still need to see his lurks more, hope he does on fracture attack

He's still the same player he always was, always good timings smart plays, the only thing that's lacking is his lurks and backstabbing, I don't see him do that nearly as much as he did with GMB/M3C, hopefully he'll get there again cause no one can stop nAts's lurks

73k on 2 maps is crazy, what did he have for breakfast

I'm watching CR and it looks really good with some interesting ideas, or is it just Meiy clicking heads?

It was a discussion since the game started, it was tenz for a few months, then nAts came about but the russian war ended that and Yay was there from the start performing consistently as one of the best ans eventually the best in 2022, so for now it's yay and it's not changing anytime soon, unless aspas goes berserk and be the best player in every tournament this year while being top 3 in masters and champs, then he'll be the goat.

I find it weird that TenZ didn't even talk about the loss and his fiance had to speak for him.
I could be wrong tho and he's too sick to say anything.

He was good on jett, he just fell off

I already checked, it looks fine, I'm not really a data expert or going to tell you what the fix is, but from what I noticed a player has an insane game and was clearly the best player on the server and still gets low rating because his team lost, something I don't see on csgo, we often see the highest rating on the losing team while on vlr it's always the winner with the highest rating.

It's better than ACS of course, or at least sometimes, but it rarely gives credits to a player if he loses a game.
Compared to the csgo rating, you see a player with high rating (1.5...) and loses, on vlr you don't see that you can drop 30k have 300+ acs and you'll get 1.15/1.2 compared to the enemy who will have higher rating if he just gets 20k for example, which is not really fair.
Maybe it's still in an early phase and hopefully we get that fixed.
(There's many examples of that, but on the top of my head the Victor split map vs MIBR he dropped 30 and was very impactful and had 1.15 rating compared to 2 players from MIBR who weren't as good and got higher rating, and it happens so often)

Preach

It's cryo in my book
FNS called some good rounds
Mwzera played against Loud.
Cryo got hard diffed by leaf and hasn't been performing well since the start of the season, he hasn't had one good map since the start of Lock/in, and for someone who is supposed to be the superstar of 100T he deserves Bagre D'Or

Nt FURIA, this guy is just different, he's so so hard to kill and his movement is so annoying to play against, I can't think of any player close to him on Jett, even Derke.
And I'm anything but a Loud fan, but I respect this guy.

No he didn't

He was at that level in 2021, but that was 2021

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They just came back to their usual form from the years before, all the players were hitting every shot in LOCK/IN and now they're not

Drop tenZ, get Yay

K1ng and Mako

No he's not top 5, but he's good and TenZ is dog water

True and proven

My goat CHICHOO had a bad game, and KK threw so many easy rounds ☹️

Losing to spectres is hilarious, KK threw so many rounds too

No idea why he had so much hate, he's so good and looks like a really good Kayo even tho it's a new role

I didn't mean you have to grind rank 24/7, but at least play some and all of these teams played a lot of ranked compared to leaf wjo has been ascendant for the last 3 acts

Even other pros say he doesn't play valorant, so highly doubt it.

You play the same game on the same maps with the same agents, different things work on pro and ranked but there's a lot in common and not playing the game at all is kinda weird, I'd bet a lot of pro players can't stop playing ranked and if they did their level would go down

This guy never plays ranked and never plays dms and still one of the best players in Americas, how is that possible?
Even on the off season he didn't play, how can you keep your level and game sense when you rarely play the game? Surely scrims aren't enough no? Playing ranked is still necessary or am I wrong?

It's EDG vs ASE, Life vs KK and his former teammates, fck that VCT sht

yeah, I'm making it up, ardiis wasn't one of the first good cypher players in the world, and niesow is talking about someone else here, because you saw on vlr which doen't have full agent data that he has 59 rounds on cypher
https://twitter.com/niesoW_/status/1479187705967828994?s=20

he litteraly saved them by his calling on so many rounds, he was never and will never be a fragger

you're clueless, he was so good on cypher that people thought he was cheating, on sage and kj he was good too long before chamber came out

12 FK and lost the map, I love ardiis but he should step up he used to do better than this on sentinel

GOAT

VIC VIC VIC

best skye in the world? so excited to see his skye on bind again, he's been missed

You're overreacting

WOOOW

Bro said afk cypher, Cypher is the hardest agent to play in pro play, this isn't ranked where no one breaks traps or know where the cam is.
Other than that i disagree, asuna was never a good oper so that will be hard.

They were good with Sean Gares and Will, doubt Mikes and Cryo brought much to the team

C9 has been surprisingly good, I still hate them for what they did to the goat but they're playing really good valorant, probably the 2nd best team in NA.