https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bLxwV2mr64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiovUyMAs_o&t=489s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLAi_cmly6Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLs8B7MgC84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFWRMmzpAbA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDa0p_xx_KA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpGE6CNkRQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtDognO_CPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lv1DK2KXlw
I you care you'll watch some/most of it.
If not , then move on from this debate.

HAHA COLZERA LOVER THROWING HACKUSATIONS
also ZywOo has comparable stats.

Im just looking realisticly at it.
Have you ever even played LoL, it's just pandering to asian markets and overpriced K/DA skins
RIOT in all their other games have not made a community market because it allows them to sell skins in overpriced bundles.
Also i rarely play CSGO, and VALVE has other games than CSGO btw.
I do admire the Steam market though, for what it has acomplished, and grown the gaming industry.

Liquid VS Astral....
Oh wait

It has less features and is not as good.
But honestly HLTV has just turned into Reddit for handicappable people who only discuss esports and politics.

Jesus Christ more Viper buffs pls

Let's face it RIOT Games is too sexist too greedy and too shitty of a company to implement that.
I mean they can't even fix the LoL servers so no they'll never add this.
Especially if it means introducing an economy that they can't control rather than overpriced bundles.
honestly fuck riot

First of all learn some proper grammar, second of all do you really think that VaLULrant is gonna slowly steal orgs and players until the CSGO scene is dead. Also even if Dev1ce does leave that would be like EU LoL pros going to NA, cashing out for a big paycheck.

You forgot the human aspect, do you seriously think Fabian is gonna switch from R6S to Valorant
Do you really think S1mple is gonna switch to Valorant just because he can have a slight pay raise.
Do you really think pros would just leave, i've seen TF2 pros stay for no reason other than they love the game, do you think they would join the shitty CSGO rip off with wonky mechanics.

Bro ofc im comparring the to the best team ever in CSGO both the get my point across, but also because you started with nitr0.
What did you expect.

Bro we were talking about EU pros and then you burst in and start talking about something that isn't relevant to the discussion.
Also the average Astralis salary is 364.000 dollars and after they accepted lower salaries.
Face it EU pros have higher wages because they are better, and because there's more competition.
Sure NA orgs have more money, but they also don't have enough players.
Also 10 million dollars is nothing compared to DOTA 2's The International 2020 was cancled yet it had over 40 million dollars in the prize pool.
Also prize pools aren't all, just look at DOTA 2 and Pverwatch they're doing poorly and yet the gave out millions of dollars every year.

Do you seriously think Well paid EU pros would leave big orgs to join Valorant.
Do you even know how fucking much EU pros are paid in CSGO.

Have you ever been to EU it's only R6S LoL and CSGO and DOTA 2 i guess.
Plus all the scenes in said games are thriving. But not NA, NA is fucking dying in most games especially CSGO.
Also most content creators and esport orgs are in the US.

Bro a Brazilian guy calling a Brazilian player the "goat" is like news, it's biased and unreliable.

Bro Furia alone has lost every tournement in EU for the last 4-5 months in 5-8th place.
They're good but not EU good. Any eu team with a top 10 player of 2020 will dumpster them within 2 maps.
And liquid flukes their way to a brutal beatdown at the hands of Astralis. Also how is Liquid supposed to upset anyone in EU when they got destroyed by pain gaming in NA 2-1.

How is it Even possible to think with your neanderthalls brain that a game that justrecently had it's highest player count ever is dead.
And don't give me the "iT's AlL jUsT bots" excuse.
If you wanna see bots then go play tf2.

The only scene that can Even complete for tournements is EU.
Change my mind.

PogChamp Viper

Try Viper and join the viper cult/fan club pls

I mean the only video game charecter comparable to Viper would be Tachanka. Although he's got a long history, Viper has about a year. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
and honestly i cry on the inside every month or so when i see the patch notes and there is nothing about viper.

I do in fact think that vlr.gg is gonna develop into a more useable site in the near future Enigma (the active site dev) even posts on threads every now and then + HLTV looked like crap when it first launched, and it didn't even have a renking system before 2015. Vlr.gg had a ranking system within mere days/weeks of launching.

bruh u say one bad thing about a player and suddenly you're - 12 points
Just like twitter i guess.

I mean the layout of HLTV is very well known and is easy to navigate, now i will say vlr.gg and thespike.gg etc. made it harder to navigate/use, which does confuse/annoy me slightly.
HLTV has weekly updated player stats with cluth king of the week and small details like that. Such as trophies won and a graph of a teams rank throughout the years, it also displays pictures of the players, (bigger pictures than the miniature vlr.gg pictures) and there's also a graph of how much time each player have spent on different rosters and for how long. It's the small details that make HLTV the best forum for esports, and honestly it's more intuitive than reddit aswell. (imo)

I think every esports/gaming forum does, it's just the gold standard.

Ralph Bohner ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
i guess no one got the reference

next time clarify if it's in the english alphabet, cuz different countries have different letters ?️RUH

T

Now this is EPIC

FUCK MY LIFE no more Viper buffs bro shes ben F tier ever since the game launched plz

He's actually got a point, since vlr.gg is practically devoid of actual threads, it's all just pro match announcements and results.

I mean i luv csgo more than VALORANT but stop shitposting you quivering HLTV virgin

Motherfucker, still no Viper buffs fml

POGCHAMP
GEN.G IS GONE

Omg please just buff Viper again, for the love of god.

bro HLTV itself is a copy of over.gg, teamfortress.tv and gotfrag.

Omg xms and fxy0 on the same team now this is truly epic

Welp back to the streaming bench

PERHAPS

Awww
VIPER
No updates just yet, but we're taking this opportunity to say we've got our eye on her. We still believe she is underperforming as a whole and we're looking at changes for her in the new year.
Dangit

Fucc yeah

xD
must've lost his memory somewhere along the way, just like when he lost the clip of him saying the n-word 7w7
edit: for anyone mad, just know this was a joke bro.

Vitality

who is mwzera
im sorry for not watching Brazillian Valorant
Or any Valorant for that matter.

Dang
im not a davidp fan but, damn

Well fucc
still great fperformance by Heretics :,)

wow i knew Valorant was a very look alike game of csgo, but to copy the run' n gun meta.
Damn

Im saying on paper

Don't get me wrong i like Daps and s0m as much as The next Guy.
But I think this team is gonna underperform.

Hello BIG is that you 7w7
Only OG's get that reference

Fucc still not enough Viper buffs