Really? I think FPX have incredible individuals and just have shitty comps and plans.
also do you think nicc should be higher or lower
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Really? I think FPX have incredible individuals and just have shitty comps and plans.
also do you think nicc should be higher or lower
okay, 3 people have said this. I am convinced
it really is the dillemma of seeing some of the other players go to international events that dragging other people down. maybe im a little to bias towards that. Like it feels really uncomfortable to move like Ragra above aaaay or autumn
im gonna put viva just below haodong just because haodong is a pretty experienced IGL and somehow has been fragging for TEC and I will prob take off juicy from HM
I wanna move Rb to at least the main list. but idk his recent performance hasnt been it
true im gonna move him up a bit
put him at 14 for now. I think he edges out stew
I was considering him for sure but like I have no clue who to take off
nobody is so high because of his IGLing which I believe to be top tier. S1Mon is lower because yes his utility is toptier but everything else is pretty mid icl
Top 30 players in CN
HM: Rb, SpiritZ1, Coconut, Juicy
I made this list but im super not happy with it, yet im not sure what to change, please mention anything you think is outrageous
Yep. NRG def are going down
you should post your own pick em, not the actual pickem link :D
Guess I just dont understand miniboo. Where would you rank him
how can a team fall off so hard man D:
I mean Less has been an incredible player in the past. If he turns out to be better than benjy here it wouldnt shock me. GL for your goat
Meiys good for sure, but i wanna see him in an international first or beat some better teams in pacific
I mean he is just a really good sentinel player, I kinda wanna seem him play some more before I can properly rate him. but judging from last year I wanna put him in my top 10
I mean he is an IGL and Im always gonna undervalue IGLs, simply because I have 0 clue how to rank the impact of IGLing. cuz I mean technically they are the most important thing to the team, but like my top 30 cant be just IGLs and I also cannot visually see the impact or know what an IGL is doing. I try my best to keep an open mind, which is why I rated kingg at 14, but normally I dont do more than that.
yeah its completely mb I didnt state that
even if jawgemo was like THE goat, I wouldnt have put him on. as this is players who made champs. I shouldve stated that too because my gosh there is too many players in the game for me to keep track on
it was actually before seoul :D but thanks. it was my top 30 going into champs
I mean I will prob redo it when bangkok rolls around and just do the players that qualify. Its just easier to like sort out players otherwise I would like need to look through every team but its prob something like:
again its not accurate just a very quick list. I mightve missed/forgotten some players. and once I put a player in a slot I didnt look back to see if it makes sense.
Yeah thats true, I am being a little too harsh on my ranking of forsaken, PRX's recent performance has not made me too happy with the team
yeah thats completely mb
Yeah I would put chichoo, meteor and benjy in my top 3 sentinels
oh really? mb then
yeah 100% could be, but im glad I put him at least 18 at the time and not be a dumbass and put him lower
He isnt the current IGL, its freeing (wrong by me mb) but at the time I was unsure of Mako's IGL and how it would affect his fragging so i put him as HM
idk my message says
30(.)
29(.)
but the numbers are
30
31
meteor was ranked 16th (or 44 here) but yeah he shouldve been higher
VLR doesnt like number going down apparantly. Aspas is 1 and FengF is 30 for reference
This was made right before champs seoul
HM: Munchkin, Kai, Boaster, Primmie, Leaf, Mako (overall, not bad these players are still up there, although I would move leaf and kai up)
30 - FengF (not a bad choice at all, but much rather kai being here)
29 - AAAY (I still stand by this, he is a very good player)
28 - Jing (welp this didnt age too well)
27 - Hiro (he is aight, prob wouldnt be top 30 if I ranked again)
26 - cNed (N/A doesnt play)
25 - Smoggy (underrated him and would put him higher now)
24 - RieNs (dont know what I was doing, he needs to be higher)
23 - Valyn (I stand by it, a very good igl and decent fragger still)
22 - Flashback (Yeah I like this)
21 - Something (jing situation)
20 - BuZz (maybe a little higher)
19 - JonahP (Overrated a little I think)
18 - benjyfishy (very statisfied with this)
17 - D4v4i (idk why I believed in prx so much)
16 - Meteor (get this man way higher wtf was I on)
15 - TenZ (N/A doesnt play)
14 - KiNgg (rode the lev hype too much, should be way lower)
13 - Derke (should be way higher)
12 - Mazino (Lev just won americas okay T-T)
11 - Trexx (I stand by this my goat)
10 - forsaken (still good player but should be way, way lower)
9 - Sayf (little less impressive since he doesnt play duelist anymore but not a bad igl at all)
8 - Wo0t (overrated bro a little bit after the shanghai hype, would swap him and RieNs)
7 - Chronicle (I stand by this)
6 - Zmjjkk (Should be higher)
5 - Zekken (not bad at all)
4 - Alfajer (still a great player, but he should be lower)
3 - Karon (still an amazing player, but I would rate him lower)
2 - T3xture (I got mindplayed into placing him this high, meteor should be here)
1 - Aspas (Very good shanghai/split 2 put him here, I would put him lower but still top 10 maybe even 5)
reasoning for why I put each person here: https://youtu.be/kPPhOHDlNTY?si=S09CqeVJ8VmFW8-g
KK has been good, demon1 played well for a season
I hope he performs, or else he is gonna get clowned on by people
thats reasonable
yep I totally I agree
? kk was literally EDGs most consistent performer and played well in madrid, shanghai and regionally as well. I dont get it
KC above TL or any other team for that matter? I know they played a close game with vitality but every other game they played they looked hot ass.
Americas is fine I could see any member of this side going down "NRG, 100T, LEV, EG" but I need to see more performances, so this is chill
Pacific is great
Nova not good? they look really good? honestly they are a better team than fpx or arguably drg but choked 1 series. Their rounds look awesome too.
People didnt consider kk a top player because EDG just couldnt win consistently. Statistically he has always been good since tokyo (except like 23 champs where he was aight). If EDG actually got wins before champs, way more people would be talking about him. Its hard to be in the discussion when you win 1 international match prior to champs, no matter who you are
they tried single elim playoff brackets, so no double map ban finals in like 2021
First off, these are all very good players, so when I say something it doesnt mean they arent bad in anyway, this specifically this is about best itw.
Smoggy - is much less consistently better than kk, besides champs where he farmed groupstage he has been aight. This is an easier point to argue as they are on the same team.
Alfajer - he has always been really good but he hasnt put up best itw performances since like 2023
Meteor, Aspas, Derke - These 3 players are all very solid contenders for best itw alongside kk and honestly whichever team is doing better will make them better than the other 3. I specifically chose KK because he has had 1 of the best peaks in vct ever imo and he was always consistently good last year. I have Meteor at 2, and derke at 3 overall.
I wouldnt argue with you if you think Meteor/aspas/derke/kk are the best players itw
Please provide who you think is better
kk hasnt retired yet
allg mate, sometimes I still tell myself the regional emea 2023 trophy is important
no? heretics won haven, lost sunset, lost lotus against edg
Liquid got points for winning regular season games, but im also really proud of them. The expectations after the koi game was like bottom 10 and now its looking much better
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