I always thought Victor was the worst player on the team but tbf he is the glue player filling in gaps in legit every single role.
Crashies has been a top 2-3 initiator, definitely the best at times, in Americas for 3 years in a row. He is a clutch player too.

I can understand gold players hating on victor not taking into account his flexibility and how that makes it harder to perfect your gameplay but calling crashies washed or trash is a dogshit take.

Hold this L Kirya

seek professional help!

poopo

Ur downvoted for misgendering not ur criticism genius

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Wasn't even mCe it was C9. Esports is in a financial decline rn and C9 chose to cut the player with the highest salary lol

Fr when asked y he said he was discouraged after taking multiple budget or "lower level" teams to success yet would be done dirty

Sadly my GOAT has said on stream he is currently just focusing on his education and will probably leave esports soon :(

???? if you think placing smokes in the same few postions on every map is a difficult as being able to flash/stun/recon any single area of any map at a moments notice then idk brother
obviously it takes some level of timing and game sense to play smokes, but initiator totally requires more game sense, timing and more precision with your util. He might be able to pull it off but I'm not gonna say he can until I see it.
plus with world class initiators like crashies and ethan on his team I rly doubt he will play the role

K

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Being literally a game off of T2 makes u T4?
I mean at worst they have to be considered T2.5 at the worst. They are as close to being T2 as u can get

I do watch some T2 games of other regions, especially the important games that are supposed to be the best T2 teams. But ya I totally watch more NA T2 which is why I said "I'm not an expert but from what I've seen"
And i literally was watching vanity's stream today and he was talking about T2 teams/players good enough for T1 and I have heard this from multiple other T1 pros too in NA.

You never said they're based in NA? what is "Liquid is an NA organization then"? They were not always an NA org. They started as an EU starcraft team u idiot. They have had rosters from different countries across multiple different games like plenty of esports organizations so of course they have facilities across the world.
You have one link from, Nerdstreet 2021 LOL, you totally got me there bro. Obviously I'm not saying they are a European only roster org, but to claim they are "an NA organization" is just wrong, they have teams in NA and facilities in NA. But they are an EU org.
BTW here are some links for ya
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Liquid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Esports_teams_based_in_the_Netherlands
https://playtoday.co/blog/guides/biggest-esports-teams/

I'm sure you will understand if I disagree with a person who doesn't even know where their favorite team is based. Bc it's always been the netherlands LOL

Don't think they r better than all non NA T2 teams. Just think they r good enough to be considered a T2 team if they weren't in NA

I mean I'm not an expert on other regions Tier 2 but from what I've seen NA Tier 2 is levels above the rest. Pros admit that there are multiple teams in NA T2 good enough to play in vct. Which makes sense since we have the most players and orgs

Dude the team play in EU and since they r ur banner I figured u watched. If you think that's a crazy assumption then ur a silly goose

Liquid based in Netherlands BTW

Because the post is calling one team really bad for losing to a bad team, when Winthrop isn't really a bad team at all. He is contextualizing the situation by relating it to the region jeffo watches.

Cry and play the victim some more plz

I wouldn't say any agent. Just smokes and duelist, plus I'm sure he could be a sentinel too but initiator is super util and timing based which takes away his best asset which is his aim.

ya pretty silly planning

fax

For the T2 teams that anti strat alot it is definitely a disadvantage. I just don't know how many teams actually have the time, resources, or dedication for that

TSM signed babybay and gmd?

poop hehe

I can taste the salt thru the screen

TBH u just gotta eat alot and make sure ur eating things that are nutrionally dense and not just chips or something.
Just like how people with super slow metabolism have to be very cautious about what they eat and tend to have to eat less than others people with fast metabolism have to eat a lot more than most.
But fr tho don't just eat garbage food. Putting on some fat is fine just make sure your not only putting on fat.

Especially when Lonzo has missed 80% of his career NBA games and when he did play he was a role player

cade and them every day of the week
in 2016 lamelo wasn't even the best player

Bro u do not need every skin in the game on multiple accounts. Chilllllll bro just buy the ones you rly like

blud is talking to himself

Mwzera is the type of player who has always looked rly good yet every team he joins ends up doing worse and having drama, maybe it finally works out but I do not have faith

LA champs too my king
keep that head high we only dislike EU around here

Balla is def the best and is consistently immortal or high ascendant.
Think sideshow only hit immortal once or twice and both times he was in EU. Typical easy servers
Bren is like a diamond player who has been immortal once or twice as well but he got there in NA which is harder

Valuable insight!!! I will use this to further solidify my bias against EU!

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xeppa

good

pretty sure for the last like week it's been confirmed that zellsis is on the bench again. Your posts r irrelevant now nerd

nuff said

It's not that he was just accused bro she brought receipts of her clearly saying stop and the mf didn't stop.
Sinatraa then said he had the entire video and would cooperate and then didn't cooperate, probably bc his lawyer saw/heard the video and said it looks bad for him.

What innocent person won't cooperate after stating they had the video? If my friend claimed they had proof they were innocent and didn't show it to anyone I would think that was sketchy and weird. So you have one side with evidence and one side without.

Word of advice just bc someone is your friend does not mean they are always right, don't defend ppl who are guilty just bc they are your friend and say "the evidence makes them look bad but I swear they have evidence that they won't show anyone that proves they are innocent"

frfr?

Thx for the nomination but I don't believe in awards

The caster from Platchat is plat in NA and Immortal in EU.
That pretty much settles it

Do it on twitter and one tweet might actually blow up

We get it, you don't pick up on obvious social cues that everyone else does you don't have to be mad abt it

^

nt buddy

Ya I'm from the US and had the US flag always until recently.

Keep proving my point abt your education please

Team queso from APAC?
Palestine in APAC?

EU education