yes, there's a reason everyone who plays continues playing
its fun
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yes, there's a reason everyone who plays continues playing
its fun
its mostly fine
league isn't even particularly toxic anymore
yes occasionally you will get a thrower or a troll but its maybe like 1/20 games
Apparently winning 14-12 with double pistol on another team's worst map in a BO1 is destroying them now
Here's what I would recommend
people play their first game immediately against real players skipping all the bot games that are recommended first and expect to not get destroyed/flamed, and suddenly get upset when they lose.
imagine playing your first fps and immediately playing an unrated game, yeah you'll be traumatized too.
there's a reason comp doesn't unlock until you've played ~60 hours of games
nah don't listen to the community its fun to play
pros: very fun w/ friends, interesting to learn, winning gives you huge dopamine hits, much less deadtime than valorant, much less luck involved, more 1v9 agency
cons: steep learning curve
league isn't even that toxic anymore, just /mute if anyone gives you trouble
I agree TH should change their roster, when a good pickup is available.
But SEN actually won in 2021, so the storyline of choking and then eventually winning doesn't really work imo. It's close, but not exact.
nah cuz they haven't missed an int'l yet and never choked (aka got second) at an int'l and won in 2021 its not close enough
g2 on the other hand...
If it makes you feel better, it's a common arc in Valorant:
PRX choke Champs 23, look bad (people think its over) in 2024, win a masters in 2025
TH choke at Champs 24, look bad (people think its over --- WE ARE HERE), win a masters in 2026??
realistically i think all they need is -boostio, his fragging is just too weak, but he's also the vibes guy + igl on the team so idk
the team did better than I expected, their maps were at least close and they were given a hard group, they really lost b/c they couldn't ever win a pistol to save their life.
some of the plays were really funny, like asuna dumping all his util for a fake and the prx-esque plays against fnatic, I think the more chaotic this team gets the better they are.
the frustrating thing about 100t is that every player provides decent value but is so inconsistent, and like 4/5 need to be playing well for them to win.
never seen a more useless player, only reason geng is losing
literally throwing every possible round possible, turns every man advantage into a disadvantage, the real reason geng keep choking
i feel so bad for foxy9
yes, please look below
AME is 15-12 to EMEA clown
yet they'll always say they're better and confidently proclaim they're ahead in h2h
its embarrassing atp tbh
TL don't have their best player = "they should've won EMEA is better"
G2 don't have their best player = "you guys are the worst region, very embarrassing"
take a look in the mirror, please
fr, kinda crazy how EMEA is, along with China, the only region where only 1 team has won a trophy
apparently being the best loser is the new stat we're using
in that case emea is first place
also kinda funny how you chose 4, coincidentally excluding the last NA win. you ain't slick.
in the past two years NA (yes, NA, not Americas) has attended 3 finals, just as many as EMEA.
thank you for posting 2021 stats in a thread asking about
the last two years
no one is debating the fact that emea farmed the game when no one knew how to play
at least were competitive
lmao the ego of emea fans is unmatched
americas this year: top 8, top 2, top 4, top 6, top 12
emea this year: top 6, top 4, top 12, top 10, top 2
aka, americas has placed better than emea this year, like all years
keep coping bro
keep winning meaningless games and losing trophies lmao
maybe i missed groups on one event...
i know i counted groups for most of them
I thought it was 12-12, from Champs LA 2023 - Masters Toronto 2025
Buddy NA has won more games against EMEA in the past two years
A peak example of EMEA projection + superiority complex
even if 100T lost they made icebox look interesting it felt like watching budget prx and that's a win in my book
is so bad why tf did every team play it
creative idea = lose the round
bro can't be mad at asuna with this fraud boostio on the team
omg im tired of my job and burning out bc i actually have to show up for more than 1 day a week
get a grip these guys literally play video games for a living
well yeah bc of virtue signaling sideshow
but literally anyone else would've been better, these guys always sound like they don't even play valorant
i'd rather listen to tarik being clueless than these guys
na t2 casters couldn't they have found anyone else
calling them talent should call them devoid of talent
when I said he was GenG's best player everyone laughed
where's all the haters now?
I don't really know the details of pre-franchising APAC, to be honest.
But I'm just glad that every event has had an Eastern v. Western team in the grand finals, it makes the stakes, competitiveness, and viewership a lot higher. The fact that APAC won the past four events doesn't really matter when each GF was so close, and the fact that the GF's have been so close is a symptom of all four regions becoming extremely competitive in general.
and the west won the previous 10 events in a row...
happy for APAC it makes the game a lot more exciting when all regions are competitive
expected of emea
No point in discussing this with someone intentionally misunderstanding the post and clearly taking things to be biased toward their own region.
You came in here dissing "low IQ Americans" unprovoked, and you've clearly continued that as you claim I try to "kick down". The only one doing that is you to make yourself feel better, and projecting that onto others, and you know it. I'm happy that APAC and China continue to dominate Valorant, they're easily the most entertaining teams to watch.
EMEA won in Masters 2 2023
AMER won in Masters 1 2024
That's a two event gap (unless your statement is because EMEA still has a chance at Toronto, so you're not adding that event for EMEA but you are for AMER, which is a little misleading).
The grand finals point is fair, but if you want to do that, why not take grand final appearances in the last six events (two years): EMEA 2-3 (if FNC win) and AMER 3.
At least this is an honest take. Discussions like these make VLR a lot more fun than the knuckleheads who bash each other about regions. I posted my take to provoke discussion / reflection, but this forum is so biased and people so unwilling to discuss or even banter that all they see is "Americas did well bwahaha onga bunga fake news".
I agree, don't take region rivalries too far. It's ultimately meant to enhance the viewing experience, not detract from it.
In terms of TL performance—they definitely had an unfortunate hand dealt to them, but I think it's unfair to suggest that they're better than other teams when they ultimately didn't deliver. It's like rewarding an unfortunate team for doing poorly, and punishing a fortunate one for doing relatively well. It's the same reason I won't say FPX "deserved" a win at Copenhagen despite visa issues, for example.
Regarding your TH logic—you could use this, but then you can't discount, for example, SEN's win against Wolves. You can't say SEN beat a weak Wolves (which seems to be the narrative) or are "China farmers" and that TH's loses aren't that bad, because they lost to top 3 toronto teams.
Again, just food for thought.
Does this change whether one region was better than the other?
It's not Americas fault that EMEA messed up their calendar and had tech issues, though I do sympathize with the region. At the end of the day, I want to watch good, fair Valorant and it was messed up that EMEA had less time to prepare.
Of course, a European lashes out for no reason. The insecurity truly is palpable, especially when they try to cosplay as someone who understands math.
There's so many contradictions here, so I'll try to highlight them for your smooth European brain:
The actual test, which is the games
If you want to use the games as logic, then this statement is clearly false:
Heretics might be the 4th best team at Toronto
Possibly the worst performance I've ever seen at an international, in terms of how well they played. At least MIBR lost to GenG, who was playing very well during Swiss.
You could have the worst team be the first seed and get 5 points for free.
They'd get 4 points, bucko. 1 point is awarded for attending. Maybe learn math, or is 5 - 1 = 4 too difficult?
By the way, all of this assumes that there exists a total order between all teams, which does not reflect the truth of sports.
I'm well aware of the fact that playoffs don't guarantee a linear order. There isn't a true linear order. Perhaps you should look into cyclic order (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_order) and intransitivity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intransitivity). Assigning points based on playoff performance was never to say X was better than Y, but that X placed better than Y, which is the only non-subjective way of looking at performance.
The actual test, which is the games, clearly show that EMEA has had NA in their pocket for the last year since Shanghai.
At least it's better than this. NA has clearly played better than EMEA for over two years, including last year. The RNG you're claiming led to higher point totals for Americas would surely have become negligible over such a long timeframe, as EMEA and Americas would've both gotten lucky and unlucky at respective tournaments. That's probably a bit confusing for you, so you might need to look into the Law of Large Numbers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers). Yet Americas has a significantly better mean placement (higher mean score) than EMEA over the course of these tournaments.
tl;dr learn math bro
yes, using the most notoriously inconsistent team as a benchmark seems to be a good idea.
Even so, I'll humor it. Here's my perspective:
Liquid were down 1-11, with most of those rounds them being flawlessed and getting absolutely cooked. PRX were playing against their own demons, not a competent team. They also got 13-5ed on Sunset. The bottom line: Liquid were down significant rounds at match point on every map (12-8, 12-5, 12-3); just because they came back does not mean they ever had control of the series.
Meanwhile, SEN might have gotten 13-3ed on split, but many of those rounds came down to clutches, milliseconds of time, or very close fights. And Sunset was especially close: an 11-13 loss with many clutches by PRX, including the forsaken helicopter defuse. Sentinels were absolutely in control of Sunset, got a bit unlucky, and could've pushed it to a map 3 and won.
That's using "gameplay" for you. It's subjective by nature, and that's fine, but it wasn't the purpose of this entire thread.
your region's been on life support for two years buddy
no viewership, no wins, no stories
bro is following me around everywhere lol
really that mad?
you realize he's referring to eu = 0, na = 10, right?
eu + na = 0 + 10
not such a great post now, is it?
you can't look at the gameplay and say FNC was miles ahead of SEN and G2
but you can look at the gameplay and say SEN and G2 were miles ahead of TH & TL.
the thing is, gameplay is subjective, especially when it comes to a whole region—and people absolutely forget the worst performers. Sure, FNC played well—but did the rest of Europe? That's what stats attempt to resolve—a more objective take.
i agree w this
people seem to equate top team with overall region
apac is probably a two team region (rrq looked pretty bad tbf) but their two teams are stronger than americas two teams.
region ≠ team
"dominant fashion"