Champs Seoul 2024 Grand Finals, Masters Bangkok 2025 Grand finals right after?? We are being spoiled like hell with these matches. Absolutely banger, and well played to both teams. I was at the edge of my seat the entire damn time. I cannot handle those impossible thrifties T1 pulled out of their ass, this is peak valorant right here

What is bro yapping about, G2 had map veto advantage went 2:0 against everyone they played against playoffs before the grandfinals, there's no way they were disadvantaged LOL. G2 played well, T1 played better, accept this fact

What is bro yapping about, G2 had map veto advantage went 2:0 against everyone they played against playoffs before the grandfinals. G2 played well, T1 played better.

I know there's a lot of debate of Carpe/Sylvan and some people saying it's just T1 improving in general. That's true, but the nerves this fucking guy has, they only lost to EDG in this tournament. HE LITERALLY JUST GOT OFF THE BENCH IN THIS EVENT HE DID NOT WAVER HE WANTED IT MORE THAN ANYONE HE'S HIM

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

It's the nerves, I don't think he thought he'd even kill leaf there, I wouldn't blame him for losing that

Yeah if they could make it to a damn international first

if they're dogshit then what does that make 100t, horseshit?

What happened to a swift 3-0 asselestia

SPLIT PEARL SO MANY THROWS SO MANY COMEBACKS BUT ALL THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT BABY

WTF IS HAPPENING HOW DID T1 BRING THAT BACK WTF

All g broski

iZu, Meteor and even potentially Sylvan

Bro's been seeing Tejo in G2 comps too much he didn't realize Trent was on Sova this entire map

Don't forget EG vs Loud in champs, that's when Demon1 joined the 101 kill record holders, and probably EG's best ever match especially after the pearl 13-0 from loud.

For the record Kang Kang did do this today, dash into a point that is, but I already mentioned earlier he got instantly contested and killed because T1 already know what the hell he's going to do and are ready for it, Split is not an easy map to just 5 man default on, that's why you see a lurker always on A. So what happens next? Rely on trades? Their trades have looked completely ass this series except for Fracture so their confidence in that is also probably quite low, not to mention iZu playing Yoru means he gets out of jail free so he can't even be traded, and it doesn't help that they got steamrolled on bind, their OWN map pick. So recklessly do the same play again till it works? Of course not, they have to switch it up somewhat, maybe get a pick somewhere to increase chances of a successful site hit. The reason why I mention the problem being the team entirely and not just him is because they should know he wants to go for an earlier gunfight at mid round start for an easier site entry (heck they should know exactly how Kang Kang wants to play memorized) because it's quite literally right at the beginning of the round, but that's not what it looked like today at all. Throughout some of the rounds, Kang Kang did not start close to the site hitters and on the rounds that he did, they got absolutely destroyed by T1 so this probably forced him to think of something else. While Kang Kang was hunting for a pick, his team was prepping for a site hit KNOWING (or should know) their duelist isn't with them and that he would be late to come for the exec. Is Kang Kang at fault for his weird positioning? Probably. But it's also the team's fault for knowing this and still executing like normal. Then the rest is just them throwing one by one as a result of the fumbled rounds. Smoggy tping in before util and Nobody peeking with a drone still in his pocket.

If Kang Kang isn't dashing onto site or whatever instantly, that probably means he doesn't think it will work if he doesn't get some sort of pick first (even if the trades go in their favor) which you can really only get with a read on what the enemy is doing or have good info on where everyone is, otherwise that's just gambling that Kang Kang is good for one.

Then eventually we've got EDG's defense rounds, which IMO is what your post should be more focused on instead. He got 0 on Split defense, going for hero plays and one and done spots that even a Jett can't get away from making him almost untradeable for his teammates.

Brother I ain't clearing his name at all he fuckin went 7/15 today with only one first blood on split in comparison to 24/13 and 7 first bloods against the same team on the same map on the same agent earlier in playoffs they converted almost all their attack rounds in that series. So clearly in this rematch T1 adapted but EDG have not. I'm disappointed because I knew they dominated this map before so I was hoping for a close game, so I can't even defend his performance today even if I tried, I'm not even denying the fact that he played terribly here lol, but just like you say that people are being blindsided by Kang Kang's value on the team, that same 'value' or rather spotlight is what's blindsiding people from seeing the other problems EDG has as a team in terms of prep, anti-stratting and adaptability. They've got more problems to worry about than just Kang Kang not performing up to standard. If you still think I'm defending Kang Kang or EDG in general or something about how they played today then I don't know what to tell ya, I guess you know me more than I know me

It's overhated for a good reason though. Breeze and Icebox both practically need Viper and Sova on offense for teams to have a good chance to win those maps.

Riot would have to rework the shit out of their maps for this to happen for teams to be able to rock creative comps, but it looks like they have no idea how to balance them at all. Breeze and Icebox being the best examples of their map failures.

I just don't think baiter is the right word for his playstyle, but anyways enough of that. You mention he will sit and watch his team entry while he AFKs for a bit, but imo that's again attributed to their comms and indecisive calls, like the round I just mentioned, and it's not like I disagree with you saying that Kang Kang can be a huge liability in their offense rounds when they're down scores, but the more I rewatch the split game again today, the more I see the disconnection in the team. I think round 11 in particular showcases a lot of what you're trying to say, but there were wayy more problems than just Kang Kang. They wanted to play contact this time at B and after making noise mid B side, Kang Kang makes his way to B main slowly walking and they're getting ready for an exec. Right before the exec happens, Nobody decides to peek out too much not expecting the op for some reason even though they should know the OP is not at mid, and he gets picked off by iZu before anyone and especially Kang Kang makes a move, but keep in mind, Nobody still had his drone at this time. The team itself I feel like has gotten problems that really showed in the G2 rematch, ESPECIALLY when momentum is against them, yes. It's causing Kang Kang to be indecisive in his decision making, not knowing where he needs to be or knowing where he needs to push, but that's also a consequence of which site his team wants to end at, so it's not a problem that's limited to just him, but the whole team. It's why I was pretty disappointed in how they played at playoffs not particularly at the results, I wholly expected T1 to win after taking Bind and Haven, but not a 3:1, especially after CHICHOO showing the world that EDG still got it in their first playoffs match.

Indeed.. once T1 got two maps on them it was hard to see a reverse sweep with how they've been playing on each one. Even the fracture was a hard win for them, but they still managed to get 3rd. I just feel sorry for CHICHOO putting up the most dominant performance we've seen in a while and not get his wish of also winning a masters and getting MVP.

Don't jinx drx now

My point of mentioning him being the common first point of contact for EDG was to refute you calling him a baiter, cause that's just simply wrong, and since you just pointed it out now, is that even him being a terrible entry or is that just a hole in their comms/tactics? Like this problem ain't exclusive to just Kang Kang, but the coach/igl too. After the timeout on offense at round 10, Kang Kang was mid to probably look for a pick there and almost instantly left it since Nobody was probably calling for him to hit with them, because of that he late rotated all the way through to spawn to not get spotted, but the side at B was already going in for a site hit without even waiting for him. That whole round looked a mess from the start cause it was already very disconnected between the plan and action, the B players not waiting for him and choosing to exec off of almost no info. Not just this round too, but round 7 as well. He'd start off with CHICHOO the lurker at A for some reason and the 3 players at B main and this wasn't the positions they were playing at ALL during their first match against T1 on Split where they stomped them on offense.

Stats don't always tell the whole story man

Mate, I want to make this clear I am not defending Kang Kang's performance at all, this was probably one of his worst internationally, but calling him a baiter when more often than not, he's EDG's first point of contact in most of their offense rounds, heck sometimes EDG overly rely on Kang Kang getting a pick before they make a move at all and saying he's a baiter or whatever (only time he isn't is if they're on a weird buy or force-buy or faking) is just wrong, cause a baiter is the 2nd point of contact to get the trade, how does Kang Kang bait or trade if he's usually the first to die? And I had to make sure so I rewatched EDG's attack on Split just now, and oh he's trying his best to entry alright, but T1 are quick to contest the space he takes, and same again in the G2 matchup on lotus A. He's losing all the space he tries to contest because teams are just ready for him whichever objective he tries to go to and picks him off before he becomes a problem

Guy genuinely has no clue what he's talking about. Apparently by his own definition an entry is being the first one on site and if he isn't the first one on site, he's baiting, like what?

Is an early gunfight not an entry? Isn't that quite literally the meaning of going for an entry frag that they can use to enter site? (Especially if he picks off a controller or sentinel) If you watch how teams have adapted to EDG you'll realize they're punishing exactly what he's going for, that's why he can't even make it to the site first, which is apparently your metric for what an entry is. Because he's the first to die in a majority of their rounds, the other players on the team are forced to trade him (if you realized, EDG's trades in particular have been terrible lately) and they ultimately lose the round because of this as they practically have no more players to effectively hit a site with in the first place. Like I am genuinely so confused here when you say he's a baiter and rarely entries. The guy on the team that thirsts the most for kills and looks for the most engagements and may sometimes potentially throw a round for it is not entrying and is baiting, now that's something I've not heard in a while. The term "entry" in this game isn't as simple as you think it is if you think KangKang of all players is a baiter brother

This is a horrid take. How the hell does Kang Kang bait and rarely entry? What? Are we watching the same player? Guy literally always ends up having the most FDs on the team, hell he has even more FDs than even JAWGEMO in both times they played G2 and these guys die the most on their respective teams. If anything he's relying too much on getting an equalizing kill/entry and first engagements that he gets punished hard for it because teams prepped against his style of play. Hell people are memeing EDG on the EDG vs G2 game on lotus cause they kept going A, and their loss on that map can be attributed Kang Kang dying before they can even leave the A choke. In terms of being overrated, I agree he's definitely not had a great tournament at Bangkok at all with people's expectations of him, but most of your points about him are just a hit or miss and isn't even his fault, it's the Coach's. They weren't able to convert a majority of their timeouts at all and their playstyle are relying too much on heroics to shift the momentum when they're down and not being able to keep that momentum when they're up

With how T1 are looking in playoffs, this could go anywhere even with the map advantage for G2. I have no idea who wins but I want a damn 5th map

The T in T1 stands for Thailand and they'll most likely have the crowd on their side to show for. I really want T1 to win this Grand Finals now. Give BuZz and Stax their long awaited trophy

probably referring to buzz and stax making it to a grand finals in an international

smh I thought you were based cause you had a drx flair but i guess not

They're looking very subpar in their full buy rounds and anti-ecos and this is a team with Kang Kang we're talking about here. He was trying to get so many engagements on split but none of it was paying off at all, and we know he's usually good for those. People are going to be quick to point "S1mon" "Smoggy" "Nobody" or whatever but their problems are much more than just individual players. It just looks like they're lacking so much in prep and are overly relying on equalizers when they're down a score. This is definitely the worst EDG we've seen in an international in a while, so I hope Muggle figures out what the hell EDG are going to do to play against this new meta and build on some anti-strats instead of betting on equalizers to shift the momentum

HYUNMIN and free1ng showing up, the reason they lost to T1 in Bangkok tho was because it was only free1ng that showed up and not HYUNMIN. Oh and also Sylvan being back

He's right tho, there's plenty of players that are good and have great potential but aren't always able to bring it out fully

Wouldn't make sense so almost none. If Smoggy gets dropped that means they need to have someone to replace him right after which I don't think there's any other players atm that are in EDG's eyes, cause remember, Smoggy's easily top 10 in VCT CN. S1mon already felt like a rare find for EDG to fill in for Haodong

you literally brought his country out from nowhere, I don't even like this yukky guy but don't try to hide the fact that you are indeed, racist lmao

EDG are decent on split and pearl tho, but they'll definitely be good maps to watch for sure

You don't need to be a superteam to win though

It's not just the bind map, he's been farming assists this whole year, even in VCT Apac. Say what you will, he's been dominant on this stat for a good while now

Bro he's even out-assisting the enemy smoker, what is this counter

Ever since he got back on t1 in this event, he's been topping the games in assists, what a beast

he's probably just butthurt about Champs 2024 GF, heretics flair hating on EDG, classic

Sylvan is cooking in assists

Dawg it ain't even as simple as an aim problem, everyone always says that if you go heavy negative or lose duels it's an aim problem, it ain't, it's confidence. All these pro players have godlike mechanics, the reason why people have off days isn't because of their aim but because of how they're feeling on gameday. If it was really just an aim problem then the solution to that would be so easy

Why is bro projecting his own ranked games stats this act in iron 1 onto CHICHOO

I like how you completely compliment everyone on the team except BuZz, him sometimes throwing and in turn stealing rounds solo somehow is what makes him fun to watch alongside his showmanship. To me he's the heart of the team

My condolences for the unlucky guy that you've set your sights on

I love how the Korean teams are looking so far. Gen.G, T1, DRX all have insane potential later on in the season too.

Me when I sleep on my keyboard and hit enter