I don't think it's possible to come to a consensus unless riot themselves come out and clarify it.
Bcoz every Fnatic hater will simply refuse to agree that it was a major. I personally, do not care and will continue to call it a major. bcoz there isn't much of a difference between lock in and masters besides the no lower bracket, which btw makes it even harder to win. You basically have to go undefeated. And even if there were a lower bracket, let's not pretend Fnatic wouldn't have won it anyways.

Ah so I should take the word of the random ass low rank vlr goblins who say it wasn't a major only boz they hate that fnatic has won 2 of them. Gotcha

Yes me too. Getting a lot of micro stutters and packet loss

Fr the "derrek bang underperforming" narrative is completely bullshit. People just expect them to carry every single game. They are consistent support players

The entire team as a whole underperformed this last season and it's not to be blamed on 1 person

Zellsis lmao

This guy is the CSGO version of jamppi

Okbotro 🗿

Bro lol we're both saying the same thing. The question is absolutely at fault here for not being unambiguous.
And in mathematics, an unambiguous expression is simply mathematicallly INCORRECT.
So the correct answer here is that the question is wrong

Ah gotcha. Goofy ahh formatting indeed

However I do not agree with the last statement you made since there is not one correct way to interpret it unless specified explicitly

Yes. And my (now deceased) college professor who had a double PhD and 30 years of teaching experience.
And I also went to YouTube after some people in the thread confused me and Dr Trefor Bazett has the same answer as me, that is, it's simply an incorrectly written expression.

Everything you wrote is correct and I do not disagree with any part whatsoever.

But you only explained how the expression would be treated if there was a proper use of paratheses. In this case the expression is not explicitly paranthesised which is the whole point of our discussion.

An actual mathematician would take a look at this expression and before giving you the answer would point out that you should use proper brackets. And then he'd tell you that 1 is the mathematically correct answer whereas 9 is the programmatically correct answer

If a source has concretely stated that "the correct answer is 9" then that is a bad source since the first thing a good source in this case would point out that the expression is written incorrectly.

1. I was not educated in America. Why would you even assume that
2. What I said is mathematically correct (even though it's different from programmatic math)

Where tf this man get 33 from 😭

You can refer to a scientific calculator.

Google will use the programmatic definition (which is not incorrect by any means) but there's ambiguity in this expression. And the mathematical definition should definitely be treated as being the correct one in case of an ambiguity

Any real mathematician wouldn't write a stupid expression like this anyways

That is so true and is literally the main reason for the entire argument. It's not a mathematical expression if it's ambiguous and there's multiple ways to interpret it.

However the fact that people now consider 9 as the accepted answer is surprising to me but it's probably because people are more concerned with the programming aspect of mathematics than the scientific.

Math in computer programming has different conventions than academic math.
I do see your point and if you're speaking in terms of computer programming then yes multiplication and division operations are evaluated serially.

But every math textbook I have used would treat a coefficient different than a multiplier.
It's a popular argument people get into all the time about how you treat the expression a÷bc. Is it (a÷b)×c or is it a÷(bc)
And the answer is that the expression is just poorly written since it is not presented in an unambiguous way. So if you're a computer programmer I can understand why you'd think 9 but from a strictly mathematical point of view it's 1

Refer #32

#32

The expression is 6÷2(1+2) and not 6÷2×(1+2)
Yes that × operation makes a huge difference. If the expression were written as the latter one, it would evaluate to 9. But since there is no × between them, it makes the 2 a coefficient of the bracket, and not simply a multiplier. And coefficients are evaluated first.

For example consider the expression "10a ÷ 5b" with a and b being unspecified constants. In such a case you will perform the 5×b operation before the division because it is a coefficient. This expression is (10×a)÷(5×b) and CANNOT be evaluated as (10×a÷5)×b

#20
Yes the question is meant to start a war that's for sure. Regardless, there's only 1 correct answer

Yes I know what PEDMAS is. The answer is still 1 (read the expression a bit more carefully)

Again, let me know if you want me to explain it

Blud it's a mathematical expression how can it have multiple answers. There is only one correct value of the expression (like every other expression) and it's 1

No I mean 1
Let me know if you want me to explain it

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edit : To be more clear so as to not create more confusion. The answer is that the expression by itself is simply an incorrect expression since it is ambiguous in interpretation. So for a computer programmer it is ok to say 9 bcoz in programmatic math, division and multiplication are evaluated serially

Secret

100T

Navi
Giants

Masters and Champions both mickey mouse
Redbull Homeground is the real shit 😤

They did it for EG 🗿

No he didn't lol. He only had 1 bad series against PRX.
NRG wouldn't even be at Masters without crashies (and sam) putting the team on their backs

Putting crashies as a fraud is a crime
He has carried them every step of the way

Fan since reykjavik = bandwagon
~ "NRG fan" (Gold2 cocksucker)

Sentinels is 100T's first body on their way to a deep champs run.

There fixed it

Don't worry 100T is NA's last hope they will save NA

So many MVPs and always high impact in-game. I can't name a single other player outside of Fnatic who can do all that while not playing a single duelist

Bro thought FNC would drop 3 maps 🤭

I think Giants could do great if they get their shit together. They have insane individuals

And NAVI obviously

Vouch for Cloud. Easily a top 5 initiators in my books

He learnt from the best 🗿
https://www.vlr.gg/34964/gambit-esports-vs-100-thieves-valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin-winners-c/?game=50242&tab=overview

Frfr NRG getting nowhere unless Ardiis becomes a consistent entry + OPer

oh shit mbmb didn't see the 5

https://twitter.com/willminder/status/1672896657715806208
Boaster's right there in the top 10 what do you mean 4/5 ?

Chet is peak alpha male performance. Stay mad

https://twitter.com/chetsingh/status/1672890852497305600

Saving strats for champions. Didn't want to give away stuff therefore avoided Masters 🗿

The flair is going away soon but I enjoyed it so much

100T win champions not even kidding 💀

I don't care where they host these events but I want RIOT to pay for and fly out 1000 Japanese fans to every single event moving forward

OUR 🐐

Shazam dapr sick tenz zombs + a time machine

NAVI fucked up anyways might as well have played Yoru for the memes