No, since they won a trophy already, that’s reserved for heretics and PRX until they win an international.

cost them the entire game

If Sen wins it though, they'll definitely call it Mickey Mouse since at bare minimum 4/6 wins will be against China.

where's EMEA in this triangle?

Think in English since SiufatBB keeps gassing Juicy up whenever we hear comms in English.

There were only 2 western teams that fell to lowers and they in turn took out 2 asian teams from contention in lowers, let's just enjoy the masters man without fighting.

He’s not even on a team atm.

They’re going to win it all aren’t they?

at the rate wolves are improving with an iron mentality that every other rookie squad this year didn’t have, I’ll believe just about anything happening during the tournament with them.

What about internationals? I know Sen vs GenG is one.

Well Wolves took out RRQ who’s the 1st APAC seed yet no one’s saying they’re better than GenG and PRX.

Looks like he just needed time to adjust, which most fans would never give to newly acquired players on teams.

Not like this…

Take out Chobra and RRQ is making every grand finals.

bruh they literally play PRX next

There’s no free path to the trophy, road goes through APAC.

Didn’t really have much of a choice, meteor left for T1 money.

SiufatBB did say they were really motivated to improve and worked on their mistakes following Sen, so that wasn't their full potential during the first match.

With the way things are going, your team is going to put the nail in the coffin for EMEA.

You have an NA org flair, maybe you should answer that question yourself.

If G2 loses to this version of XLG calling that shocking would be an understatement.

PRX are favored vs Sen, no?

No one wants the smoke from GenG atm, so they only had PRX left.

Who else is XLG going to pick? They're not going to pick PRX & GenG who were the strongest teams coming out of swiss, and Wolves are from their own region so picking them is seen as a cowardly move and no one wants same region match-ups. Only option they had that was respectable but gave them a perceived winning edge was Sen.

Ngl I can see people saying that PRX is the worst of the Pacific teams to say that Sen got lucky (RRQ and GenG on the other side of the bracket).

Dude FNS will crash out if Zellsis gets more masters titles than him.

They didn't play Heretics or first round TL w/o nAts.

Think their coach thought they could've anti-stratted Sen off of the vods of Lotus for what its worth.

Texture is also in that conversation imo.

They had to swap out YOU with midi, this isnt the same team lineup that won VCT China, kind of like how EDG looked like a shell of themselves in Split 1 with Simon out.

Probably thought he had enough vods to anti-strat Sen.

either Sen got TL first round with no nAts, Wolves, or PRX; there's no winning for Sen unless they drew and got PRX round 1 or GenG/PRX round 2. Since EMEA fans will definitely say Sen beating TL first round wouldn't have counted either.

Bro it’s not even halfway through first half, pump the breaks and be humble.

Lets not jinx it, better for Sen to be the underdogs this run.

Why’s Sen catching strays? They still need to beat either PRX/G2 if they make it past XLG to at least make top 5/6

G2 going out that early would be a shock.

Then how did EDG beat them last year at Champs if Sen mind control is that strong?

Mate, Sen has to beat G2 first before that could possibly happen

Threads like this makes me wish 2024 FPX was appreciated more given the tough hand of opponents and where they got stopped in their runs.

What’s the bare minimum required for a region to not be a 0 team region? Having teams make top 4 at the current international?

I dont think Americas fans will say much, MIBR got 13-1ed by GenG so we're in the same boat.

Internal team conflict led to Simons benching in split 1 and EDG couldn’t find a 5th that they could integrate well in that time period by the time playoffs rolled around.

tournament isnt over yet...

Whens the deadline for a prediction? Before playoffs start?

Furia

You have to get rid of the SOOP contract first, many teams were directly impacted by the viewership decline and chose to leave as a result.

But he won Madrid vs GenG and made top 4 at Champs this past year.

GE LightingFast

There’s still the concept of hot and cold, and teams that play later (1st seeds) tend to need some time to ramp up while teams coming out of swiss are already warmed up from their recent matches.

But that’s what the general audience wants and needs.