Congo1
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EMEA

  1. Vitality
  2. Team Heretics
  3. Karmine Corp

Americas:

  1. G2
  2. NRG
  3. Sentinels

APAC:

  1. DRX
  2. T1
  3. GenG

China

  1. EDG
  2. Trace
  3. BLG
posted 4 months ago

I am not saying they are unprofessional. But they have no fans as an org and dont have a good/popular team under contract either. Plus very little presence in riot games esports.

I struggle to put them higher than anybody else

posted 4 months ago

Partnership system is likely getting changed for 2027 to 6-8 partnered teams and rest ascension ones.

Plus lcq thats also available for T2 and T1 teams to qual for internationals

posted 4 months ago

They have consistently one of the higher viewership averages. Apeks doesnt appear in the top 5 viewed matches outside of their GM8 match whereas GM8 does.

They have one of the highest fanbase potentials in emea. Just need some more success. French bring the most viewers so they deserve the most orgs currently.

If you wann get in new markets replace apeks/giantx for Fokus or smth

posted 4 months ago

Team of notorious chokers. It is what it is

posted 4 months ago

Honestly... Makes me feel like CGN would have outperformed them. They just got unlucky with BBL pcific.

posted 4 months ago

Oh god. Even more al0rante propaganda

posted 4 months ago

I have no problem with Mandatory. I support Vit, KC and Gm8 in VCT. I just think they are not a good team. Thats all. I am not cheering against them.

And mercenary or not. Vitality will win first french trophy. That means a lot.

Besides Natank and Kadavra there just are any great french players right now. Maybe veqaj and shin could be solid.

posted 4 months ago

They have never really drawn much in esports. Doesnt seem like the name value is doing too much.

posted 4 months ago

I dont think riot is gonna make partnership contingent on short term competetive success alone.

The will look at fan potential, viewership, the serving of different markets, financial stability, competent operations and then maybe success as the last factor. As long as someone isnt deliberately spending pennies for years and is always a bottom feeder then they wont care

posted 4 months ago

TL has, like FNC, brand recognition amongst the general audience. They have less of a dedicated hardcore fanbase than the country-specific/streamer orgs but add value to the ecosystem as a whole. Due to the sheer longevity of their esports presence they have amassed some level of core audience but its still not comparable to the streamer orgs

posted 4 months ago

They have been around for decades. They regularly make their payment in time and spend pretty big on rosters. For esports that is very stable

posted 4 months ago

Brother i am looking at viewership. Reality is that france is currently showing by far the highest esports viewership in europe. I clearly explained this if you read the post but you'd rather just sling shit at me uninformed.

posted 4 months ago
  1. Fnatic
    (decently big fanbase org, appeals to the broader audience, decent viewership driver, financially stable and long history of competence and legitimacy from other esports, very ambitious org -> wants to win and invests money for it, )

  2. Karmine Corp
    ( Massive viewership driver in other esports especially LoL, big passionate hardcore audience [that still needs to be brought over to val more through some success stories], very ambitious org -> wants to win and invests money for it)

  3. Gentlemates
    (Big viewership driver in valorant -> 2 of the top 5 viewed matches in kickoff involve them including top 1, young org that has been expanding into various esports backed by rich & popular group of influencers, french market very passionate for esports, --> org is like karmine corp a few years ago)

  4. Vitality
    (Filthy rich org, spends big in multiple esports, hugely successful im CS, ambitious but shaky in LoL, has been around for years in pretty much every esport --> current roster has potential of becoming a viewership driver with international success)

  5. Team Liquid
    (Financially very stable, competent org with years of history in every esport, not the biggest viewership driver but reliable org with name recognition to the general audience, current team is pretty good)

  6. Team Heretics
    (Due to KOIs failure so far the primary representative of the spanish market, not the biggest org with the most money but a decently established brand by now with a strong team, social numbers are decent)

  7. KOI
    (Despite their consistent failure of the past few years a potentially massive viewership driver, desperately needs more success though to unlock that, clear number 1 representative of spanish fandom if they do that, very successful in LoL currently with huge viewership, would be ranked in top 3-4 if they had a good team)

  8. BBL
    (Higher fan potential than Fut. Most likely to be a hub for turkish fans to flourish in. If they find more success than they currently that should help them. Some questions remain about financial sides and payments made, there have been rumours about it)

  9. FUT
    (Consistent success results wise, good team, however turkish fans dont connect to them as much apparently, BBL seems like better alternative, not the biggest esport history either)

  10. Navi
    (So far an abject failure, eastern fans remain loyal to CS, drive the old FPX core into the ground, not as established as TL, VIt, FNC in esports world)

  11. GiantX
    (A bit of nothing org, no fans, no big success stories beyond one champs appearance, not as established as FNC, TL, Vit but with a decent presence in esports world, but KOI and Heretics already cover the spanish market better, would make more sense to replace them with some german presence for example [Fokus]

  12. Apeks
    (Worthless org honestly, minor esports world presence with little money and no fans, UK market is dead anyway and has no potential)

Some suggestions for new partnered teams that arent already in the league:

  1. Joblife
    Another (!) french streamer org, yes, but they simply get massive viewership for T2. Has big potential to be T1 viewership driver

  2. Fokus
    If they ever intend to win over the German market Fokus is currently their best bet. Highest viewership in VCL dach but its much less than the french communities

  3. Mandatory
    ANOTHER french streamer org but once again get good viewership in T2 and has fan potential for T1

  4. DVM
    Same as mandatory

posted 4 months ago

So many new french accounts coming directly from zerator stream

posted 4 months ago

Vitality, Heretics, Karmine Corp

posted 4 months ago

true

posted 4 months ago

fantastic if accurate

posted 4 months ago

its better this way. they would have let go their entire roster cuz they were too young last year. this year they can freely ascend and start this roster next season in T1

posted 4 months ago

still too young

posted 4 months ago

these playoffs pickems are so free

posted 4 months ago

why the ego. never won vct emea so pipe down

posted 4 months ago

he will play with pcific in vct next year

posted 4 months ago

i think shin is still good but yeah. Sayo hardcarries.

But they are better than mandatory and joblife on average form

posted 4 months ago

I mean they beat spains 1 and east 3. But yeah they suck. No aim.

Turkish league is cleaer best and maybe german and eastern league have some good teams. Rest is bad

posted 4 months ago

MVP of emea challengers

346 acs

posted 4 months ago

comeback will be ready from the start i think. Loita and larok might not be able to start the season from the beginning. They were 16 last year.

Crewen and rose are both ready

posted 4 months ago

if they ascend the team stays togehter

posted 4 months ago

i disagree. At least currently. but give them a year in T1 and they definitely could be. The talent is there.

posted 4 months ago

What a demonstration of power. THIS is the BBL pcific that is going to win ascension

posted 4 months ago

2-0 wash Pcfifc clears

posted 5 months ago

And americans carry North america. Wow. What a take my guy. Turkey is EU/Emea.

posted 5 months ago

I am pro turkish league but i dont understand why a few of you turks on VLR always yap about us vs europe bullshit. This is one region shut up jesus Christ.

And i dont wann do that but youre forcing my hand. Ever since fut won T2 before franchising turkish league has been a fucking disappointment. Great individuals but shit teams. Bad igls, bad coaches, no structure, no strats. Howl failed, Fireflux failed, supermassive failed, Parla failed, Digital athletics failed, galacticos failed, s2g failed ...

This is the first year where turkish league has put things together and you come with this arrogance? So fucking unnecessary. Seriously. Especially that Artorias twat is at fault in that regard. Maybe i am going to hard on you for that but it has to be said.

Turkey has always been part of EU/Emea region. Stop this isolationist nonsense.

posted 5 months ago

After what ive seen today EF are gonna roll them, honestly. This event is gonna end in a rematch of turkish league finals.

posted 5 months ago

Unfortunately the top 5 emea senti player al0rante had packet loss today 😔😔😔

This superstar was unfairly hindered to carry this game easily resulting in a loss.

He is just tooooo good. Didnt want to put in effort today. This T2 level is beneath him

posted 5 months ago

I am sorry but you are simply delusional.

posted 5 months ago

I am not saying he cant play T1 at all. But will he be the next wo0t? Next riens? Next Alfajer?

I think kids like Xeus, Kaajak, Ruxic, Comeback, larok, loita, GSR .... Those types of talents are "the future"

Mistic has also been farming T2 consistently getting massive ratings. Is he the "future" of T1? He has stood out more than alora te across the board. Guys like Sociablee and izzy have consistently stood out more than him...

And he is NOT top 3 aimer in T2 lmao.

There are just too many good players already in T1 and too many standouts pushing towards T1. Good T2 journeymen just arent ever "the future" of T1. Sure, they might play there for a while but more as a side note than a prominent factor.

(Why are you even talking about french players? I didnt mention a single one of them and havent been advocating for any. Maybe natank now that he is jobless but thats it.)

posted 5 months ago

A few of these players you listed are old. Like alorante has been around since the beginning of the game. Hasnt really been a crazy standout either. How is that "the future".

posted 5 months ago

Guys joblife is not winning this.

posted 5 months ago
  1. Vit
  2. TH
  3. KC
  4. TL
  5. FNC
  6. FUT
  7. BBL
  8. Gm8
  9. Navi
  10. GX
  11. KOI
  12. Apeks
posted 5 months ago

He is fine at best. But he is not showing skills of a mega talent. He is older and has been playing for a long time. These kids i mentioned have started playing yesterday and are already insane mechanically.

If i am to include older talent in these lists they have to be absolute standouts like sociablee and izzy

posted 5 months ago

Disagree on ellement and waddle.

I would add Best and Krizz for sure. Also WanZeru and Yigox.

posted 5 months ago

brother... EVERY spanish team sucks. Your first LOST to shitty mandatory. Like why are you yapping

posted 5 months ago

Group A is absolutely terrible

posted 5 months ago

Could be very good. But I expect them to not finish higher than 3rd

posted 5 months ago

Brother i just said mandatory is shit.

Joblife clears every spanish team so pipe down bud

posted 5 months ago

Turkish IGL market is rough

posted 5 months ago
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