of course players can keep improving, even mechanically. Mechanics are likely to be the area of skill with the lowest amount of improvement possible. But players can get massively better in terms of game sense, util usage, discipline, mental aspects, tactial understanding both on macro and micro level and many other things. Derke today is far better than he was in 2021. Alfajer is much better than he was in 2022. Keiko is far better this year than last year.

BBL pcific can improve both individually as well as a team by being exposed to T1 environment for prolonged periods of time. Also they would likely recieve a better suporting staff that aids their development at t1 level.

Sure, its possible. He has been consistent for long. Maybe he does the kamyk. But i dont think he will be a top 10 emea player long term. Probably solid like a kadavra or smth. Thats perfectly fine. but he is not the next xeus, wo0t, riens, keiko etc

tbf we are talking 17 year olds who are not at their peak. if you add sociablee to get rid of rose and give them a few months praccing exclusively T1 teams, playing on T1 stage games they will improve very fast. Main team is good as well but who has the higher ceiling?

and you know that how?

he is way too aggro to be senti. Gonna be duelist for life imo

Turkish people come especially. Do you think the org could get really big if BBL starts this roster

Comeback
Larok
Loita
Sociablee IGL
Crewen

in T1?

Do you think their costreams would be much bigger if they qualled to internationals with this team? Bundle sales etc? Could this become a staple org of EMEA T1 popularity wise? I am trying to compare it to squeezie costream of Gentlemates who are the biggest viewershiop driver in EMEA right now

what do you mean only 2 years? are you referring to the old ascension system of forced demotion after 2 years or what are you saying?

it will be yearly promotion/relegation based system i assume. Ascension would become a up/down tournament essentially

well... so far no results

Bro pressed randomize button

Turkey: Comeback, Larok, Loita, Slaughter, Best, Influx, Yigox

France: Sayonara, Yohpa, Fangeer, Izana

Northeast: GSR, Krizz, Chaza, Wanzeru, Raz, Razziss

Spain: Sunflower, swagzor, ara

Germany: Proxh, Movi, Darxcio

Viewership is what counts my friend.

Thing is. Its only 6 partners. It will be very easy to qualify through ascension. Not being partnered doesnt mean they are not in T1

This is not CS. Navi have no pull here.

Good try from SMB. Expected less from them.

Fener is the number 2 team in Turkey. Great great talent. Only EF if they wake up can beat them (excl Pcf ofc)

Im gonna learn turkish atp

Are you sure its ownership and not affiliate?. If so poor BBl team. They have some good players there who will lose their jobs.

If BBL really owns them i would keep sociable to IGL.and drop rose. He is not good enough for T1 fragging wise

Fixed teams: 6
Ascension teams: 6

Remove: Giants, Navi, Fut, BBL, KOI

Keep: FNC, Vitality, Liquid, KC, Heretics, GM8 (Orgs have money or big fanbase)

With 6 teams able to ascend due to riots discussed changes. Franchised spots are not as important anymore. Teams can survive easy. Closer to CS2 circuit

No baha no IW win

He played for DA where he struggled heavy and got benched. But he is really young (16 i think) and DA was a very bad team so situation made him look worse.

This is a great start. I hope is continues

He still needs to step up. This split he has been really really really bad. Like terrible.

I wouldnt be shocked if they signed sociablee to igl for them in T1 if Rose struggles to much there

With the players they have it makes no sense Supermassive is 1-10

This sounds hella gay on google translate

Acension teams can stay forever if they dont demote

I have to rewire my autopilot brain now...

Why? They comfortably beat Liquid (albeit the week 1 version), They were one round off beating FUT and they could have easily went to map 3 vs KC where anything could have happened.

Their record isnt a fair representation of their level. Similar to vitalitys 1-2.

Longterm if KC keeps improving they should jump ahead into S tier which is deem to be potential trophy contenders then the rankings make perfect sense.

Tiers make more sense to me than just numbered lists

S tier: Vitality, Fnatic, Heretics, Liquid
A tier: FUT, KCorp, Gentlemates,
B tier: BBL, Navi
C tier: Giants, Apeks, KOI

I am loving this stage so far!

Emea has a massive amount of insane rookies coming up. Its not even comparable.

Sayonara, Comeback, Larok, Loita, GSR, Influx, Krizz, Best, Slaughter, Yohpa, Fangeer, Izana, Chaza, Wanzeru.... Like i can keep listing. Most of them are under 18. Noone is older.

Good for NA to finally get some new talent after the stagnation of the past 2 years. Teams like EG/ C9/ 100T need to rotate out the old recycled players. But it would be smart to pipe down.

And yes. No team in global T2 beats BBL PCIFIC. They just arent. If you dont agree you just dont understand. That team will be competing for serious success in T1 of emea even.

But to answer your question. Canezera has looked like the best to me so far

Older good T2 player. I dont see a massive T1 career for him personally. Maybe be a solid player in a midfield team. Thats the ceiling imo

They comfortably beat TL and were a round of beating Fut as well as bringing KC to map 3. This is incredibly disingenuous presentation of the facts from you.

I dont give a fuck

If youre doubting Screams aim you really are clueless. Scream go kill works super well in 2025 still

Robbie really so handsome....

Also i am always for a scream return. Beast player

Gentlemates are not fodder at all. Saying that is kind of self-exposing ngl.

For BBL i can see the argument

They keep improving week by week which is an important sign. Also players are shooting. They are on the right path

KC stomped their icebox too tbf. It would have been a fun map.
Unlucky for mates

Today was his best showing so far tbh. 2nd in his team. 0.9 its an improvement

He dropped 30 map 1....

Its sad to see him struggle so much. He was good in kickoff

He said that gm8 did not want him to stay? Are you 100% sure?

People spread the narrative that they kicked natank for some reason. Seen it a lot

Really really good series so far. Both individuals and strats/macro.

Okay

Guy has jad an incredible stage 1 so far

Why hate on a talented rookie one week in? A lot of peoples takes would drastically improve by following T2 more....

Elite is great but he just joined the league and has won nothing yet. Baffling choice

1. Chronicle
2. Leo
3. Derke
4. Nats
5. Alfajer
6. Shao
7. Suygetsu
8. Wo0t
9. Riens
10. Sayf

This is the actual legit list. From 2021 to 2025.

You mean OOOO AAAAA EEEE

Brother. Apeks has no shooters. Giants can aim diff them rather easily.

Like look what fnc is doing to them. Winning every duel

Yeah zach seems to be pretty good. Similar to serial he is a late starter