Oh PRX is Playing? One of my favourite hatewatches! 🤗
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Oh PRX is Playing? One of my favourite hatewatches! 🤗
Sure. I think after this stage a coaching change makes sense but not in the middle of the split. Just causes chaos. Play out the last 2 games.
Flickless could be pretty solid. He has been part of the tryouts of halef the league this offseason (EDIT: previously said summer). I think he was one of the top options for Liquid especially. Sure he had one mid split. But he has been a consistent top player in the past. You are not signing Sayonara but he should be a solid hand.
Ara could solve Giants duelists problem. Tomaszy couldnt do it at T1 level. Purpo feels far more comfortable as a flex. Has had his best performances there. However ara is a bit green for this level. He hasnt played a crazy amount of T2 at this point. It is too early in my opinion. However if thats the best option they got it could still work out well. He is a natural entry player and could suit this team in that regard since that is lacking.
Its good that Giants are trying something. Good thing that today both ara and Flickless had a standout game. Maybe they are getting hot at the perfect time
Anyways. Goodbye to Tomaszy and Runner. You had some great moments. Maybe one day you will come back to T1.
Probably replacing Runner and Tomaszy. Interesting change if it goes through.
Ara is actually a full blooded duelist unlike purpo and tomaszy (at T1 level). However he is extremely new to comp. It is a bold move in that regard. I would have preferred more time in T2 for him but he has talent. Flickless is the type of player who is very solid and flexible. He was close to T1 for 2 years now. He does deserve a chance.
Not crazy improvements on individual level but makes more sense role wise for the team i feel. Personally i would prefer a stronger duelist.
Gentlemates are not doing shit at all. Not boom or G2, sure, but why do they need to be? If you dont make champs you dont deserve T1 or what?
Now they own pacific
They can build a roster from scratch. Its not a problem
Brother you are wildly delusional. Navi are not beating Vitality. They really really really arent.
And this "crisis" you speak of is two close losses to potentially the two best teams in EMEA as of this moment....
I repeat. Navi. Are. Not. Beating. Vitality.
They are going 3-2 3rd place.
Navi, no. But group 2s 4th seed absolutely could. That group could end in big tiebreakers
They have KOI and BBL left. Its very much in their hands. BBL needs to improve from what we have seen so far to beat them
Its not exactly peak EU hours. I wanted to write down my thoughts. Engagement is not a primary concern of mine.
On the contrary. I feel like stage 1 has been very enlightening. Here is my reasoning. It is quite in depth.
Vitalitys issue is they are "pretty good" on most maps but other top teams are excellent in 1-2 maps which is why they are especially at risk in early stage bo3s where it is unclear what maps are your opponent's strongest and you can't flex the depth of your map pool as much as in bo5s. In their match vs FNC Boaster had an absolute life game both calling wise and fragging wise. Its hard to maintain this level on a consistent basis. He reverted back vs Apeks to normal levels. I am not sure FNC would win the rematch if they played again tomorrow. Heretics looked really strong but Vitality picked all of their best maps so i think it would be harder for them in bo5s later on with more knowledge of team map pools. Also i expect Vitality to step it up now that EMEA has finally woken up and isnt making winning as easy as in kickoff. Now you get pushed and can actually improve. I know its popular to hate on vitality right now but i believe this all to be true. If you think i am biased then no arguments i could make would be taken seriously.
Liquid i have as first because the rate at which they improve week by week is unreal to me. Lohan is the best coach in the league currently and the team is picking things up really really well. I believe that by the deeper playoffs rounds Liquid will have a very very strong map pool that other teams cant match. Also Keiko still insane. Nats Insane. And kamo with confidence is dangerous. Serial and Patitek are pulling their weight currently. I expect Serial to put up strong numbers once he gets fully comfortable with T1, the stage and his new role.
Heretics are simply back. They keep improving fast. They will be a strong contender for internationals. I could see them finish first easily. But the top at EMEA is so strong rn that i had to put someone further down. Their map pool still needs work for bo5s however which is why i put them 3rd. #SplitAttackSide
Fnatic look great at times. Solid at other times. I think Boaster lifegamed vitality in every sense (calling and fragging 1.11vlr). I wonder how repeatable that win is in bo5 setting with public knowledge of teams map pools. I was quite disappointed with their Split vs Apeks and Fracture Attack vs Navi (op crutch saved them on defense too). But once again. I wont be shocked if this team wins EMEA. For now 4th.
KCorp are an interesting case. Bad week 1 with only one good map into two amazing weeks. Their individuals look incredible. Marteen highest rated player in EMEA. Playing even better than kickoff 2024. Avez amongst the rookies of the season candidates. Suygetsu crisp as ever. Elite has some maps where he just decides to dominate. Its really really nice to see. Reminds me of Liquid in late stage kickoff. They are flowing right now. However (!) I still worry about their comps. Currently their quirky comps look great but with Engh teams you have to worry if he can keep cooking at a rate fast enough to evade the anti of other teams. At least now he has an igl so he doesnt have to call every adaptation himself. For now i will leave them at 5th for that reason. Its always safer to be the master of the meta than to be the off-meta master. But we shall see. Could work big.
FUT are the eternal gatekeepers. At this point i wonder how this team can break into that real top level. Sure you could do some player changes to keep improving individual skill of the team but thats not the problem. I just do not see them winning EMEA. Maybe make one international (i doubt it) but they arent winning trophies. Maybe the coach has to go. Also surely they sign Slaughter to replace ata. Surely....
Gentlemates some individuals dont seem to be in good form (Click, Zyppan) but generally this team is quite good. I could see them beat FUT for sure. Maybe they could have beaten Kcorp as well if they got to 3rd map? I still lean KC but its possible. This team is smart. Has decent shooters with 2 standouts at top level. Map pool is mid Emea level. Just a solid team really. With how well the top teams are currently playing I don't see a international appearance for them but they should steamroll ascension. Probably even beat current PCFIC.
Navi are showing signs of life. In my eyes clearly the weakest Playoff team but not too bad. Some maps have looked good but overall their comps are very suboptimal. Sometimes outdated. They really have players to do big things. People are really overlooking this fact in my opinion. Ruxic is playing amazingly well, Hiro despite being really hated for some reason has had some stellar games and Shao is still that guy. He is like Nats in 2024. Underrated world class because team is lower end. One issue player wise is Koala being standout on OP but weak on rifle and entry. On defence they perma force OP and play passive due to that. This could be a big issue for his T1 future. Also Ange1 ofc one of the weakest fraggers in the league at this point. Nowadays guys like Sayf, Nats, Cloud.... Even MrFallin. They shoot. This is dragging down their avrg mechanical level a bit. Biggest issue clearly remain comps and strategies. Even if they work decently well. It is just very suboptimal.
BBL look good at times and weak at other times. My 9th placed team. If they could play Navi for the last playoff spot i could see them win it. Probably 55% chance. Maybe 60. But Group 2 just has greater depth imo so its harder to make playoffs. Group 1 however has more peak level teams of course but worse/more bottom teams.
Giants, Apeks and KOI just arent gonna make it. The clear bottom 3
Way too high on BBL currently.
Power rankings mean little so here are my Playoffs placements predictions
You are not reading. I said he can be a decent player for a midfield team. And you mistake is you looked at kadas 2 splits at dvm and thats all you researched. At Mandatory (which you obviously didnt check) he was dominating the league.
This is Kadavra
Alliance EU challengers 1 closed quals 5th rated:
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/541/champions-tour-europe-stage-3-challengers-1?exclude=5738.5739.5740.5741.5742.5743.5744.5745.5595.5596.5597.5598.5599&min_rounds=0&agent=all
Alliance EU challengers 2 6th rated: (2021) https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/544/champions-tour-europe-stage-3-challengers-2?exclude=6325.6326.6327.6328.6332&min_rounds=0&agent=all
Vitality EU closed qualifiers 3rd rated: (2022)
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/795/champions-tour-europe-stage-1-challengers-2?exclude=8917.8918.8919.8920.8921.8922&min_rounds=0&agent=all
BDS VCL france 2nd rated: (2022) https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/986/valorant-regional-league-france-revolution-stage-2
Mandatory hard carry 1st rated vcl france: (2023)
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1577/challengers-league-france-revolution-split-2
Gentlemates VCT Emea Stage 2 13th rated!!!: (2024)
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2094/champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-2?exclude=25968.25969.25970.25971.25972.25973&min_rounds=0&agent=all
Gentlemates EMEA Kickoff 22nd rated: (2025)
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2276/champions-tour-2025-emea-kickoff
There is a lot Kovaq has yet to achieve before he can call himself better than Kadavra.
Brother. He was clearly the best player in all of France in Mandatory. A team he hard carried. That is a level kovaq hasnt reached. DVM was also a shit team that finished out of playoffs when he was on it and he was still amongst the top players in the league.
"Mediocre stats" he says....
Also.check his agent pool. Theres hardly any agents Kada hasnt played in his career. Flexibility is his nature
"is better than kada". My brother check the unholy stats kada had in france and you will not say these things. Bro was french god carrying bad teams
one was apparently minor. that is probably the biggest issue.
this guy is such a no game loser. no self respect too
champs is much more likely than any other event due to 4 spots. Surely its possible. But i understand what you mean
G2 looked like they were marching through this event. surely they win it?
i mean you said "a year wasted". Sounds like he wouldnt play at all. if he can finally play that would be a success to me
i will organize fistfight to the death between you and pipson. Only one of you can survive
45 round map 1 tbf.
the aspas statpad method
Wild how turkey has so many players playing the game, both ranked and comp, but so little viewers.
Why isnt Fut being watched more? just influencer diff?
What if they start winning? Will they come back?
Man Fener kids are so damn good. Best, Yigox, Slaughter all T1 talent
izzy playing cypher every map? i'd rather not. let him play duelist on some other team
of course players can keep improving, even mechanically. Mechanics are likely to be the area of skill with the lowest amount of improvement possible. But players can get massively better in terms of game sense, util usage, discipline, mental aspects, tactial understanding both on macro and micro level and many other things. Derke today is far better than he was in 2021. Alfajer is much better than he was in 2022. Keiko is far better this year than last year.
BBL pcific can improve both individually as well as a team by being exposed to T1 environment for prolonged periods of time. Also they would likely recieve a better suporting staff that aids their development at t1 level.
Sure, its possible. He has been consistent for long. Maybe he does the kamyk. But i dont think he will be a top 10 emea player long term. Probably solid like a kadavra or smth. Thats perfectly fine. but he is not the next xeus, wo0t, riens, keiko etc
tbf we are talking 17 year olds who are not at their peak. if you add sociablee to get rid of rose and give them a few months praccing exclusively T1 teams, playing on T1 stage games they will improve very fast. Main team is good as well but who has the higher ceiling?
and you know that how?
he is way too aggro to be senti. Gonna be duelist for life imo
Turkish people come especially. Do you think the org could get really big if BBL starts this roster
Comeback
Larok
Loita
Sociablee IGL
Crewen
in T1?
Do you think their costreams would be much bigger if they qualled to internationals with this team? Bundle sales etc? Could this become a staple org of EMEA T1 popularity wise? I am trying to compare it to squeezie costream of Gentlemates who are the biggest viewershiop driver in EMEA right now
what do you mean only 2 years? are you referring to the old ascension system of forced demotion after 2 years or what are you saying?
it will be yearly promotion/relegation based system i assume. Ascension would become a up/down tournament essentially
Turkey: Comeback, Larok, Loita, Slaughter, Best, Influx, Yigox
France: Sayonara, Yohpa, Fangeer, Izana
Northeast: GSR, Krizz, Chaza, Wanzeru, Raz, Razziss
Spain: Sunflower, swagzor, ara
Germany: Proxh, Movi, Darxcio
Thing is. Its only 6 partners. It will be very easy to qualify through ascension. Not being partnered doesnt mean they are not in T1
Good try from SMB. Expected less from them.
Fener is the number 2 team in Turkey. Great great talent. Only EF if they wake up can beat them (excl Pcf ofc)
Im gonna learn turkish atp
Are you sure its ownership and not affiliate?. If so poor BBl team. They have some good players there who will lose their jobs.
If BBL really owns them i would keep sociable to IGL.and drop rose. He is not good enough for T1 fragging wise
Fixed teams: 6
Ascension teams: 6
Remove: Giants, Navi, Fut, BBL, KOI
Keep: FNC, Vitality, Liquid, KC, Heretics, GM8 (Orgs have money or big fanbase)
With 6 teams able to ascend due to riots discussed changes. Franchised spots are not as important anymore. Teams can survive easy. Closer to CS2 circuit
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