so if we average out GenG international placings we get 4.5 and if we average out EDG placings they are slightly behind at 4.6 but TH would average 3.8. So would you say that TH is the best team of 2024?
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so if we average out GenG international placings we get 4.5 and if we average out EDG placings they are slightly behind at 4.6 but TH would average 3.8. So would you say that TH is the best team of 2024?
Everyone keeps saying international consistancy but if you average GENG's placings with EDG placings they are almost the same. TH has the most "consistent placement" so are they the best team of 2024?
what are you saying im not talking about random orgs money I'm talking about the prize pool which is literally what determines the difference between an S tier tournament and a B tier tournament
are you pulling the 4 extra teams from the 3rd seeds or circuit point qualifiers bc that can be TH or SEN. Champs it takes more games to win the tourney than masters.
yea first lan winners not first masters winners
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kru, fnatic, drx are the front runners i believe
sen won back to back masters
won 2021 stage 1 and 2
well i dont think if sen was the first masters winners. they all happened on march 21st so id assume korea or japan or asia won it first
i would definitely say aspas and derke are good at raze but i somewhat agree with your definition of a good duelist but i believe it can go both ways. I believe many raze players also suck at jett and its hard to call them a great duelist
idk what to tell you its literally called masters and each winner received masters titles and gun buddies
but like regardless of commentator mistakes saadhak proudly still uses the masters gun buddy he receives
could be im not saying hes not the goat im just saying he's not the only one with a masters and champs
no they are literally masters. remember when gambit rebranded to m3c, it stood for masters 3 champions. this is masters 1
he's not entire 2021 acend roster and saadhak
https://www.vlr.gg/event/338/champions-tour-brazil-stage-1-masters
https://www.vlr.gg/event/334/champions-tour-europe-stage-1-masters
he is not the only player to win champs and masters
you can say the same thing for winning masters its literally giving champs points for qualification for champs. In which edg had the most points
so i dont get your arguement. You basically say that masters = champs but china region < every other region. Youre downplaying EDGs achievements. The reality of the situation is champs > masters > all regionals
idk how you believe that the VCT valorant champions tour has a masters equal to a champions. masters winners literally award champions points in which EDG still had the most of. Theres 17 masters winners and 4 champions winners. Do you think that the nbas mid season tournament is equivalent to the nba championship or msi is equal to worlds?
how is saying china doesnt count even a point?
well throughout the whole year their are 6 tournaments. obviously they didnt win all 6 tournaments thoughout the year so at some points they weren't the best. If we look at the overall year they've definitely achieved the most by winning the most titles. just remember 3 regionals < 2 masters < 1 champs. im taking the 2024 team that won 3 regionals and 1 champs over a 1 masters 2 regionals team
well obviously their not the best team throughout the whole year or else they wouldve won all 6 tournaments but overall 2024 theyve had the best year
because you have the title of "world champions" you can literally call yourselves the best in the world. 17 teams have won a masters and 4 teams have won a champions
regardless of the money champs is still way more important than master. Riot themselves say EDG are the world champions when they won while when GenG and Sen won masters they just say masters winners. so we refer to how 3 regionals < 2 masters < 1 champs. We are comparing a team with all 3 regionals and 1 champs to a team with 1 masters and 2 regionals. You are arguing the placement of EDG and GENG at the other international tournaments so i use prize awarded by riot to determine the worth of each placement. EDG placed at all 3 international tournaments totaling a grand total prize pool winnings over any other team
because in esports the prize pool determine the tier of tournament it is. Thats what makes regionals less than masters and masters less than champions
well if you dont care about map pools in this current map pool id side with EDG champs form over GENG in shanghai form but without breeze and split.
Idk how you can compare a master win to a champs win bc a second place at champs give you more money than either 1st place masters win
but EDG won the most prize money when totaling all 3 international lans
okay but like to be honest when have we ever gone into a season with an org that made a "super team" and it worked?
ex 2023 sen, nrg 2024 and 2023 c9
the teams that win are usually new unproven talent
Also to answer the question it really depends if we are playing in this current map pool or the Shanghai map pool
It also depends if it’s bo5
They played in Madrid we know GenG got a little better by Shanghai and we know EDG got a lot better later on
EDG destroyed them on icebox
Geng destroyed EDG on split and breeze but breeze and split are out of map pool
You’re making up hypothetical but the clear fact of the matter is that EDG had the most successful year.
Won the most money internationally and regionally
4/4 grand finals wins
Most champs points
Won champs
Can all themselves world champions (riot don’t call masters winner world champions)
Based off international placement EDG won the most money by a long shot
I get that everyone disagrees but based off the hard evidence how can you say EDG aren’t the clear cut best team of 2024. I feel that people are using their bias because they think GenG deserve it
But why aren’t they the best team of the year
-most titles
So you are basically telling me that you still believe that champs is equal to a masters when the VCT is basically just a tour leading up to champs. And youre telling me that the best team in 2024 isnt the team that had the most champs points, most titles, won the most money. champs having a 1st prize equal to 4x madrid 1st places and almost 3x shanghai 1st places.
TH is clearly 1st. PRX wins titles at least
If we consider placements at all 3 international tournaments they won the most money across all 3 tournaments. So we got a team that ended the year with
the most important international win
made the most money
had the most titles
had the most champions points
id say maybe in 2021 and 2022 this statement is true but in 2023 and 2024 the prize money for winning champs skyrocketed to a million making it worth more than both masters combined
all regions are equal but winning champions is the equivalent prize pool wise as winning 2 masters
Masters used to be a regional tournament. Champions has always been an international tournament
winning champions made you more than madrid and shanghai combined
Riot makes the entire year revolve around champions. Champions has the largest prize pool. Teams even qualifying for champions generates a lot of money for the orgs. Champions is not the same as masters
Yea so EDG has the best international placement because they compete in the VCT valorant CHAMPIONS tour and they won champions so they became the most successful team internationally and leading up to champions they were technically the most successful team having the most CHAMPIONS points as well as being the most successful team regionally
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