A lot of potential that feels wasted Sadge

The way you saw osu! just felt very ignorant as an osu! player who invested too much time in a circle clicking game. :) There is still a lot I could tell you about osu! but I will stop now.
I just will link this and a bit more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1-wTmOELQ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNCVIWrqWGA&t=33s osu! as an esport.

i mean, do you play it? and whats your rank? the way you talk is like people who say non-pros cant have an opinion on the pro scene

I am rank 22k in osu!std right now, and was a top 100 player in osu!droid about 3 or 4 years ago.

-> claims i am oblivious to other osu mechanics without stating other osu mechanics

Are you fr now? being able to hit 200 bpm streams is mechanical skill it's literally takes technique and stamina for that. Can't you understand that sentence or what?

again timing and claiming there are other mechanics without providing any evidence. youre not real

maybe you just misunderstand me, I meant mechanical skill with that, you probably think about other buttons you have to press like going beyond x and z probably right? So is technique that have to be learned not defined as a mechanic for you?
Then mapping comes to in my mind which also takes a lot of time and should be defined as a mechanic in that game.

am saying only osu isnt the hardest game mechanically. it is hard absolutely a hard game but not the most mechanical. but you simply dont use your keyboard as much as games like starcraft, fortnite or gunz and it isnt as hard to aim as quake, fortnite, cs. i'll use your own argument against you since you like it so much. youve never played any of these games to a high level

you are right but I am just ranting about your first point you said about osu!

"Its 99% about timing tbh, it doesnt require high level aim or keyboard mechanics, u literally only press 2 buttons"

I just want to tell you that you are wrong about that because your understanding of "timing" in osu! doesn't makes a lot of sense to my understanding of the game. Yes it easier to aim because it is a 2d game that's obvious dude, but reaching high lvls just takes time like other games do.

Of course a game like Starcraft is a lot harder in mechanics, I am not disagreing with that, I also don't claim knowledge about that game or the other ones. I'm just telling you that osu! is a game about pure mechanical skill and claiming it is 99% timing is simple minded.

"I have played it"

-> do you mean you are a 6 digit that played 9* maps with relax, because the way you talk about osu! makes you seem completely oblivious to any other in-game mechanic in the game.

Being able to hit 200bpm deathstreams is a mechanical skill, reading AR 11 and low AR EZ-mod maps is a skill. That are things you have to practice to get good at it.

Btw reaching 100k in Gridshot is super easy compared to be able to hit 300bpm deathstreams, your comparison makes you oblivious about other in-game mechanics.

" Timing" is a skill in osu! - It is a lot more than that, it is technique, stamina, reading, aim control and finger control which are all mechanical skill you have to put thousands of hours in to get a good lvl in that game.

-> You using that term "timing" makes it obvious that you haven't played osu! to any high lvl in your life and are evaluating to the very basics you know as a noob in that game.

You never have played osu! to a high degree if you say that. osu! is one of the games where the mechanical skill makes it addicting to play, because improvement is one of the things you see when you set scores on maps. Timing is definitely is only a small part of it, it's a game which relies super high lvl mechanical skill, being able to tap on the keys very fast and accurate, having consistent aim while playing high BPM maps that makes it hard to aim. Hitting jumps that go from the start to the end of your monitor in milliseconds. All that makes osu! one of the most hardest games in terms of skill ceiling, the game is over 10 years old and every month records are set that were thought to be impossible. The game may not that hard to learn but reaching a high lvl requires a ton of dedication and talent that not everybody has.

-> osu! is a game that heavily relies on the mechanical skill of a player, it's also very physically demanding on your hands if you play a very high lvl the possibility of getting carpal tunnel is definitely high without taking breaks.

-> a game where the skill ceiling is pretty much the sky, that is osu! if you follow top players.

It would be a huge upgreat for 100T if it ever happens but personally I dislike the playstyle of 100T, it feels like it wouldn't fit him. I just want that smeaging f0rsaken.

I also like it, seems super fair and down to earth.

Jinggg do National service next year, but yeah after that maybe.

From a indirect contact I heard that Forsaken will probably go to America next year. A org with a lot of money in Asia wanted to buy him out but Forsaken declined saying he will go to NA next year. I'm not 100% sure tho if this is still the case when PRX could get to franchising with luck, but if they don't, there is probably good chance he will go for the bag and go to a good team either in NA or EMEA.

Doesn't matter if your entry Jett goes 0/8 in Fk with the awp.
But yeah Buzz is a great player, so is Mako, Zest and Stax.
Very great players.

The only paid bot is you in this forum

Only if they still in there in the last three days although it's probably not happening

Nolifer diff, also very bored right now, cause no great matches for the next weeks in Val

2/5 bottom fraggin as the duelist is not good enough to win any internationals, when he is getting outaimed his team struggles a lot. I am sorry that I may have been wrong about him bottomfragging for most of the event, but he surely wasn't close to being one of the best duelist in the event.

I am not "hating" him since Iceland I am more of being very critical of him since the very first international he played. Also since he was one of the most underperforming players if you compare his regional stats to the international ones.
-> https://twitter.com/_SushantJha/status/1518806084374642688?s=20&t=mf6AUb3gzF_bFeuZv7O0LA

My point should have been, he hasn't shown a lot and what he showed was not enough for the team, he seems to be the weak link of the team. If anybody think that those stats are enough for winning Copenhagen, then you my guy have inhaled to much Hopium.

https://www.vlr.gg/85533/drx-vs-zeta-division-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-lr2
https://www.vlr.gg/85528/drx-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/101881/drx-vs-cnj-esports-champions-tour-korea-stage-2-challengers-w4
https://www.vlr.gg/51286/vision-strikers-vs-cloud9-blue-valorant-champions-decider-d
https://www.vlr.gg/51284/vision-strikers-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-winners-d
https://www.vlr.gg/34975/vision-strikers-vs-gambit-esports-valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin-qf

Definitely true, it feels like nobody has watched any of those matches and are saying things to post shit.
He will probably struggle against better teams who can shut down certain setups from NTH, but come on guys!!! Let's wait and see what will happen.
The last thing we saw is him owning CR and Zeta infront of 13k people on LAN.

Also 2 of those matches were once they completely dominated, those really are nothing special. When it comes to the ones where there is a lot of pressure, he struggles a lot and this goes even far beyond Iceland just looking at Champions he had super hard time against FNC and C9.

It's bothers me because DRX could be actually good if they had a star firepower ability on the main entry role. The reason why he even can keep up is because the setups of DRX are allowing him to get a lot of those kills. If he can't get his shit together then DRX will never win a international event.

He had an off day in every match they lost in internationals struggling to get over 150 ACS in those matches. He is playing super important roles and he got owned everytime it came down to the important matches.

Accept the truth dude, since you can't argue with actual arguments.

Happens when the region is a one team region since it's very conception. DRX will probably get to playoffs and will get owned there when Rb is bottom fragging again.

Hahaha Rb was bottom fragging in Iceland for the most of the event. The problem with him is that he can't hit any apw shots for life. He is one of the issues from DRX since Champions, there is a reason why they are trying to make him play less Jett.

I swear it feels like nobody saw any JP matches when they did the predictions they just look at the results and say: "haha Zeta fell off cause they lost OMEGALUL".
The region literally improved so much that NTH just beat Zeta because they played insanely well, almost nobody is for some reason considering this??? It just so unreasonable for me.

No, they played two days on LAN infront of a crowd of 13k people. 2 Bo3s and one Bo5

Crazy absolute crazy what Northeption did here. In a single day they managed to completely anti-strat the maps that Zeta had beaten them the day before. Not only were they the first team in JP to get a map against Zeta, they were the first in this stage to beat them.

Whoever is scouting for NTH needs a pay raise, they managed to find 5 absolute insane players that could matchup the super team from JP. Xnfri is somebody to look out for in the future same with the rest of the team.

GG, congrats to Northeption and good luck in Copenhagen!

Let's make JP proud NTH!!!

Just go all five maps for peak viewership

Yeah stop baiting dude you gain nothing from this.

Sehr schwach von dir, geh zurrück zu CS Bruder, wenn du nix aussagekräftiges beitragen kannst, dann solltest du am besten Leise sein. Du hast absolut keine Ahnung von was du redest.

I hate it when people talk shit without knowing anything, NTH is good there was always a possibility for upsets here. Zeta is not even playing bad but NTH is crazy at anti-strating the mappicks from Zeta.

Why are you talking shit when you really seem to don't have any knowledge of them?

wow Zeta lost a map already, ngl this is unexpected :o

I think this tier list will age very badly, Zeta just played Infront of a crowd with 13k people and are playing better than ever before and APAC also is a region not to be underestimated.

• PRX will cause chaos which do work against teams like Guild/FPX/2nd seed NA especially guild who have shown signs of weakness against teams like Navi and BIG where chaos just confused the heck out of them.

I disagree by a lot because the Hopium for the EMEA and NA teams is too high overall despite having the two favorites to win the event.

• FPX will play at least with one sub which will be detrimental to their performance. If they are really unlucky they will have 3 subs and then it's pretty much game over for them.

• FNC and Optic are the clear favorites with Loud also being a tough competition for them.

• DRX is never to be underestimated if they are on form they will do insane damage to any team in this tournament. Only cause of worry is their midrounding which is sometimes very lackluster considering how reliant they are on the set plays.

• The only ones I can see not performing well is KRÜ and the 2nd seed of BR (maybe also 2nd seed APAC) with them just not showcasing previously the lvl of the other regions currently have.

I have watched every region so far in this stage other than Latam.

I don't get the Zeta or #2 seed of Apac pick, it doesn't make sense especially Zeta.

#MARUWIN
I want the impossible to happen, let's make Korea look competitive Maru!!!

I hope this match will be close, both teams rather impressed me in this stage.

• Zeta are still looking good coming back from Masters 1 and now have a even bigger mappool with very cool and interestings comps. Good fundementals that always set up some insane midrounding, not to mention also the talent of the roster being absolute insane, everybody just has the potential to clutch different 1vX scenarios.

• NTH is always atonishing to look at, the org somehow manages to get insane talent on their Valo team every single time, now with Meteor, xnfri, Derialy, JoXJo and Blackwiz although some of them needs polishing, the talent of the roster is definitely visible, especially with Meteor who looks straight up like a demon in game. Good mechanical talent that uses good strats and various interesting set ups.

Zeta is definitely favoured to win this but hopefully this will be a fun match to watch

no, shouldn't be. In the last stage it was a Bo5 in grandfinals

They won that map lol, no need to make fun of it

they legit are making fun of japanese culture, that's so sad. Some of them needs to touch grass

Didn't know 2020 was a century ago

I don't think it was poison dude. lmao 😂

Very important match for Order if they are somehow able to make it close or even win against PRX then they would be very good candidates for the Masters spot.
They played well against Oasis so they might be able to take a map off PRX if they are on again.
I predict a 2-1 for PRX

gl for both teams and may the better team win.

The better Aslan wins

2-0 for BB. After watching both games from BB and SG I can say that BB have good set plays that don't rely on their players to just pop off like Sengoku do. It was really disappointing how one dimensional the strats of SG were against Fav, easy to read and not well thought out.

What a game from BB on Bind, they really pushed Zeta to their absolute limits there. Very happy for them, with a little more time they will become contenders for this region representative. I like how they try to be on meta with their comps, it really is cool. They are kinda like a mini version of FPX, not on their lvl yet but the ideas are great.

That is an interesting opinion, but he still would be better than Obnoks and probably by far, Obnoks really is doing a lot of fundamental mistakes that costs BIG a lot of rounds, the way he just decides to peek things seems weird. I personally think that Magnum could be a good fit for BIG with his expercience in Tier 1 other than that he is also is grinding a lot which could mean that he may be even improving, which I didn't see from Obnoks at all in recent times, that guy is still dry peeking a lot and his utility usage is just not good enough/ or not impressive with the agents he plays.

a super nice match overall, there were a lot of nice ideas by Rig they were just unlucky to face Zeta in the first round here, they got straight up aim diffed by Zeta's attacker rounds. Zeta still looking insane after Iceland I really am hopeful for JP after this match

it did