thats EDG,they been rivals.What does Heretics gotta do w it?Heretics started it,and prx gave it back to them up the ass

Yall still playing val?

it def does.U just said "There's way too many examples of the best team in the world not being able to win an event because they lack experience in the big moments as I mentioned above".The best teams in the world didn't start out as best teams.They were nooby teams that got better over time.The lack of experience u speak of is there for every new team.Idk why ur tryna point out that fact and insinuating that heretics is just inexperienced and they could come back and win champs.Thats why I said I could say that about c9 and that they are also an inexperienced team and could come back and win champs.

Yeah and thats what im tryna say,they will crumble which is fine.They can come back stronger,we dont need to make excuses for them.

Do u think they were best teams in the world first? or they became best teams later?I could gamble and say cloud 9 gonna be the best team by the end.U see how braindead it sounds?

Yes and performing under pressure is a part of being a competitor.If u crumble under pressure,ur not cut out.Like what?This guy is tryna make excuses but experience has always played a factor.Guy is making up scenarios in his head to convince himself that heretics gonna come back and win champs like what?Too early to say anything.

Bro this is just pure speculation.Like what?

u could say that about any new team.Which could be true,could be not,we dk the internals of a team.Idk why ur tryna make excuses bro.

idk bout mickey mouse,still a masters tourney.But fnatic is a good team,they just never experienced being down like that in a while.They will probably fix their mistakes and be a top team again dw.Its just the beginnig of the year.

yeah and that is fine bro.Teams have ups and downs,rn they are worse,but they can get better thats the point I am making.They have plenty of time.Enjoy the teams that are doing well rn thats just valorant.

u mean aim?sure.I meant more gameplay wise.

But imagine tho?u never know,we can only hope a god descends down on earth.Imagine how hype that would be

scrim in no way was better than tenz.Maybe hs%?Idk i just feel like scream tries to play valorant like cs and it just doesn't work out

yeah shouldn't have lost that one,thats what happens when u play worse.Its fine tho they got the whole year ahead to get better

well by worse I mean they probably couldn't adapt to the evolving game u could say.Not like their skill disappeared from 2021,it just didn't game any better but the game did.Tenz is the only one I could say was so far ahead of everyone else in 2021 in raw skill that he is still that skilled guy and on top of that now that he has a good structured team,has been able to evolve himself into this 2024 version.

yay is a weird one,cause the only team that can activate him is fns lol.U put the optic core back together u'll see him dominating again

i think thats a weird argument.Of course he's gonna be better than how he was 3 years ago.

Crazy how the experienced teams didn't even make the lan no?

ok?Doesn't that just mean they are worse then?Sure they can get better by not throwing next time maybe?Do u call every round that people make a mistake in throwing?

BRO,all these players other than maybe ethan don't midround.Do u think john just calls the ideas on the round and thats it?John gives the macro ,and the rest of the team fills in the gaps and zellsis does it the most.If zellsis wasn't there,sens midround would not be as good as it is now,even their attacks and retakes.He coordinates most of it.Sen would look like the one dimensional team that they were last year if they still played w pancada cause pancada only knows how to play smokes.Zellsis brings flexibility and A LOT MORE .Zellsis helps activate the pieces ur talking about.NGL bossman the way u think makes u sound dumb

when did i disregard johnqt?U don't remember people were saying having zellsis over pancada was a dumb choice?How Pancada would have been a million times better for the team?I was mainly referring to that.

I loved people doubting zellsis in the team,but now we know the coaching staff didnt make that choice at random.

I feel like Navi is just mid idk why.After FPX they just fell off ,maybe if they go back to fpx they come back?

It was at the top of forums,so i replied

Well now we all know Tenz was never the issue lol.The team had no structure ,no solid roles for 2+ years.U can't do anything in a team like that especially as a duelist.

To get Fns as a coach they gotta throw the BAG at him or he wont

Id say Tenz S+.Now that he has a team around him he is shining.S+ should be raid boss type players and tenz is def one of those.

I could get onboard w a KOI win lol

I say it cause there is so small sample size for them.I am saying they aren't even in their prime smokes form yet.Alfajer over suygetsu def cause he has stats to back it up.2 cup wins not easy w being the best player both times.Doesnt matter if lock in was a mickey mouse tourney.Fnatic dominated half of 2023 and Alfajer was a big part of that.Can't say the same for suygetsu.

Suygetsu above Alfajer?Tenz and Karon in smokes?Bro what?I like Tenz and Karon too but gotta be realistic here.Maybe if they can keep up this form the entire year sure.

stil crazy no?its like some lottery shit.Gonna start asking this guy for predictions

fr fr

Id say zekken mainly because the team is setting him up for kills.So of course he is gonna have more impact.Zekken is going above and beyond here.Tenz despite that is getting impact as well but since zekken is set up to have impact he is just getting it more.So thats why I am saying zekken.

The problem is split is one of Kc best maps too

Hmm looking at kc and heretics from yesteryday and today.Heretics def look better than kc in terms of adjustments they can make.So ig

yeah ur right but if u wanna win tourneys ur support players also need to be able to frag.U cant win tourneys that way if u have a weak link where the guy can't shoot.Yes his support is s tier but not being able to shoot in the heat of the moment loses crucial rounds.

thats the thing,now a days if u wanna win tourneys ur supports need to be able to frag.Look at zellsis.Sacy's support is s tier but his shooting and positioning in the heat of the moment aint there.

I think the game yesterday was very misguiding.Sen looked very sloppy yesterday.

Alright calm down buddy,zekken and tenz are very close but as of right now zekken is 1 and then tenz.U dont realize zekken despite going in first stays alive where most duelists just get one and die.Guy is crazy.

But what that gotta do with them losing the next game tho?

No there is a clip where tenz's mom was yelling at him to eat his noodles

For some reason his aim goes out the window when he plays skye other than that he is good.

I thought its the second one?NAHHH WHAT?

No miniboo is insane ,im saying its just the first series,they will make a comeback

Chill bro u have more chances,head up

17-11 FB?This guy is unreal

They got outplayed simply

Its aight he won the round

Probably better for them in the long run

could be