valorant isn't just getting kills and opping with jett, forgot vlr average rank is gold.

I can see that happening to most vlr users too, the only difference between hltv and vlr is time.

You are thinking way too deep man, I know you'll refuse and stand by your point but I assure you that jakee being given an opportunity for the first time in the big leagues will not have this shitty attitude. It's all spur in the moment, I'm sure she is reflecting right now on what she said right now and they aren't actually like this.

this is the most VLR/basement dweller comment I've read today. I'm pretty sure she was frustrated and tweeted that, she doesn't have actual prejudice. It was just an in-the-moment tweet that she should've refrained. Stop making this shit so deep, I assure you that she and jakee have respect for the players, we've seen the frustration in sports and expect it in esports.

No one is going to openly shit on a coach at the end of the day results are what matters, that's all what esports is. If you don't have results you lose your job, I don't care about the "feel good" feelings that a coach gives to players. If Kaplan is such a good coach then Sentinels will dismiss the results and keep Kaplan. You can come back to this post and prove me wrong if he gets resigned.

Your message basically just discredits mCe and Potter, there is no luck only success or failure. The SEN coaches regarding the org budget had the most freedom compared to orgs like EG & C9.

a team this good should not be trash bro, they were given 2 months and this is what has come out of it. Bare minimum top 2 in NA Lcq considering what c9 was doing in the regular season.

You can look back on my posts, I have never said that Mini and Boaster need to be replaced. They got fucked over many times by stuff like COVID, braveaaf situation, etc. They dealt with it and still made it to LANS and performed decently. If you told me last year that Sacy, Pancada, and Marved would not make it to a single international lan this year I would not believe you but that is what that comes up with this. This game is very coach centric if you haven't noticed with teams like EG, C9, NRG, LEV, etc. I would much rather have more trust if the coach could even make NA LCQ let alone a LAN than the other coaches in the franchise that have incredible results and receipts of transformation. We've seen what Potter did against Optic, we've seen what mCe did to The Guard, the wild card is Sykko but that's the only roster I believe where that chemistry is what kept them going compared to the coach's magic. At the end of the day, the players are in the server and if they only have 1 strat which is an A rush on Pearl then the team is lost.

What??? So you're telling me the management that has 0 experience with Valorant is picking up players? I'm sure coaches had a big say in the players they can pick or else it would make no sense and would be even more of a failure if Kaplan and Sykko was entrusted with a roster they didn't even want. And if Potter is entrusted with picking up an academy team and forming a 10-man franchise roster, alongside with mCe being able to drop vanity and yay. I'm sure these coaches have a lot of power, not to mention that Fnatic was willing to get Leo and Chronicle and also invested in Alfajer earlier. All these decisions were heavily impacted by the coach and the igl.

So EG ran a 10-man roster correct? They used this 10-man roster to find what works and what doesn't, they integrate Demon1 in because they notice in scrims that he is the way to go for this roster to be finalized and to qualify for playoffs. This is an example of a good coach, Potter got 10 players that she requested management to give contracts to which they did so Potter can embark on this project and find what is the best fit. This is an example of a good coaching system and without Potter, this move doesn't happen and EG doesn't flourish. Kaplan and Dephh picked up 2 current world champs and brought in familiar faces with zekken & dephh while keeping TenZ. They later picked up Marved as a 6th man a say I'm sure the coaches had to have a say for. If a coaching system is picking out the players and the roles, how is there role issues. How is there synergy problems, how is there a lack of consistency, etc. Jakee and Runi played their first matches excellentally.. Same with Demon1 coming from Tier 2 with the assistance of Potter on how to position and set him up. I can go on but I want to sleep instead of argue with you about how I'm correct.

You're acting like when they had the original roster they looked good when they were abysmal. These challenges you've brought up are challenges every team faces, Zellsis and Runi interchange agents a lot same with other teams in this season. You also have to consider that these were the players that the coach wanted also, mCe had a plan with c9, Potter had a plan with Demon1 and Ethan as the new pickups, Onur saw what he can do with Leviatan, list goes on and on. I feel like there is just special stuff given to SEN and although I agree they were unlucky, there are many teams that can just adapt and play well. PRX fucking added a pubg streamer and got 3rd at tokyo, I'm sure SEN should definitely be able to figure something out.

The biggest difference with Demon1 is that before Demon1 they didn't have a consistent Jett which is played on 70% of the maps. Potter beat Optic with Apoth and Reformed, players we don't even know about. I'm pretty sure Kaplan's best result was a win against XSET. Potter proved it now with Demon1, Kaplan can't prove it with TenZ, Marved, Zekken, Sacy, and Pancada. That's all I have to say

I'm not going to deny though, this fnatic roster is like prime sen 2021. Just perfection but they wouldn't be as good without the antistratting and prep. I do think other coaches excel much more than him in terms of pure coaching(Onur & mCe > all)

Bro what? He made every LAN except 1, got top 2 against a coachless prime SEN. Fucked over by many problems(braveaaf, visa issues, covid,etc). Give some respect to them

They picked the players?? Also roles and agents should not be a problem in 2023 Valorant, I'd agree with you if this was last year or 2021 but if you look at rosters like EG, LEV, C9, NRG, Fnatic,(any good team) every player can flex multiple agents. I get it they were world champs in their roles but Ardiis was a world champion on jett/chamber but he plays KJ on some maps.

I'm sorry but we've seen coaches transform unknown players into great stars. Look at Leviatan the team that just steam rolled SEN, before Onur we didn't know anyone on the roster. Look at what EG has done with their core with Potters creative strats and ideas.

if mCe can transform runi and jakee into star power players and amazing synergy to almost beat NRG. I believe SEN should be easily dismantling all these teams like how Optic and Loud did it back in 2022.

Fnatic did it, the difference is Fnatic management had the coach and the igl pick the players. SEN decided dephhh, kaplan, and DrewSpark was the greatest they could get. Compared to mCe, Chet, great EMEA coaches.

When do people start considering that this guy might be the problem alongside DrewSpark. A roster this good should be playing much better. Sad to see that a coach that didn't even make NA LCQ and an analyst that put Sacy on controller are running the biggest Valorant org lol.

HAHA

mCe is the guards daddy

Hope this isn't real and him thinking C9 who made 0 lans that year was the way to go.

Loud didn't go 2nd place what? lmfaoo

NAVI literally played better against EDG than Loud the #2 team from lock in and #1 from americas. I'm not even an EMEA fan but playing against NRG and then EDG that was on fire that event(barely any vods of them playing).

Sticking with the core increases stock value in itself to show that the player is not just chasing money and has passion. The Guard is also like a franchise team smurfing in t2 right now, his taking the gamble is completely well placed since now that if Guard has made it to franchising he got what he wanted and if Guard doesn't: he gets picked up and replaced the people on current franchise rosters. Dephhh was seen as a top 2 NA IGL but now with the whole Sentinels situation he no longer plays and I doubt he will ever get another offer from franchising unless he grinds T2. Players on many franchise rosters are at such risk of being kicked out of franchising then joining a fresh t2 project and never making it back into the league(Look at Xand, we'll see these examples in 2024).

Franchising is Do or Die and sure you secured money but if you are in a fucked project, you don't want to end up like yay whose stock was at an all-time high now shadowed by his teams poor performance(DSG).

rather have these people here than be out of their room

Fiening off group stage matches, holy shit I guess Sentinels was top 5 in the world when they took a map off Loud the lockin runner up!

NAVI loses 15-17 and 12-14 to a team that decimated Loud and almost beat Team Liquid(11-13). Let's switch the igls up and fuck the chemistry! :D

every good team has super proactive comns, Sentinels 2021 was just mostly shahz dapr sick, Gambit 2021 was also not just redgar but sheydos and chronicle, Acend 2021 also had proactive callers with zeek and starxo even though bonecold is their igl. On Loud it wasn't just saadhak, sacy contributed a lot.

TSM dephh

You could really tell this by how he played chamber in LCQ, game sense is like the most important tool in in lurks and timings but he costed them many times. He did put up incredible numbers but he could've done much more.

All that og Sentinels needed was a real coach. We don't even take away from the fact that they were still playing insane with Rawkus and took a map off Optic core without any coach during that first season in 2022. Truly had so much potential if they could've got Sean Gares or Sliggy during their prime. And people think "oh sentinels just won cuz they were out aiming everyone", is that not what Fnatic, Evil Geniuses, and Paper Rex have been doing? The only difference is that they have a support system and a org that is willing to do anything for the team(Getting Demon1 a visa for Tokyo, Signing whatever players Boaster and Mini wanted,etc).

I assure you that if Boaster and Derke didn't have mini and the structure fnatic provided them, they would be playing in VRL. Sentinels fucked up their own team more than anything by allowing poor work ethic/complacency after they won.

Difference between fnatic and sentinels is this:

Leo best player on guild
Chronicle best player on m3c/gambit
Alfajer top 2 on fnatic
Derke best player on fnatic
Boaster reputable igl and brought fnatic far many times

Now look at sentinels:

Sacy a very good side player to aspas and set him up greatly
Pancada very underrated on controller but the role switch and we haven’t seen him the same
Marved undisputed top 2 on Optic core
Zekken 2nd best on XSET
TenZ best on SEN
Dephh a decently proven igl (5th-6th in champs) doable but very risky to entrust the role to.

Now here’s the problem:
Sykko Head Coach of Sentinels while the best achievement he’s had is 5th/6th and relied on building up rosters, he’d be better on teams with up comer players than champion contending, Kaplan new head coach that didn’t even make NA LCQ…

This is not americas super team, instead of a failure from upper management, sentinels could’ve been truly great if they invested into coaching staff. Not blaming dephh because runi did not make it to challengers even but with the help of mCe who is proven to be able to make lans and foster great talent, created him into something.

true fnatic with coaching staff same with liquid was dogshit honestly

makes an account to hate, quite sad.

nah

Comps from the stone age work. The meta ascent comp, jett raze omen cypher sage split, kj viper icebox, etc. I do agree though lack of utilizing chamber and astra fucked them but they've been solid in the metas that have no op character that the game revolves around.

this post is so sad but I'm just assuming it's bait

You are not ok, get help.

ya he did just wide swing into 3 that last round on ascent, but they didn't pick him up to frag. Their calls looked solid though both games.

He's igl, he's allowed to perform that bad.

"s0m > marved any day marved fell off" Just cuz he isn't competing at the moment doesn't mean he has fell off. He was one of the biggest reasons they won Iceland and got out of groups in Copenhagen.

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I remember people saying that for 2021 Sentinels lool.

people forget that Envy/optic was a 5th/6th place team without yay. But when they got yay they actually just used him so efficiently.

Leaf = Victor - Victor does his role the best but Leaf frags harder and has more potential on Neon

Crashies > Zellsis - Man this shouldn't be even considered. Crashies is so much more impactful on his role and the amount of LANs he's played compared to Zellsis also should play into question.

he just means best of the best like vct masters/champs

Remember when literally everyone here said Chet was a bad coach haha

We've seen this in the past, the teams that don't come from LCQ or do good in the event prior to champs will do good. I can see XSET being very good just because of the fact nobody has vods on them atm and the fact Cryo and Zekkan are great on LAN. I think 100T will do good also, they have the best coaching staff in the tournament and they are going against strat heavy teams(I see 100t qualifying through LB). Optic is a wild card but if they can reinvent themselves in the 2 weeks Bootcamp(Using new comps and changing tendencies) they will be good because they have the fragging for it.