No, no this year ! 2024 ! I was saying that with how it's framed, it's nearly impossible to have a good academics roster :
https://www.vlr.gg/372327/allow-t1-team-to-have-a-aca-in-t2
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No, no this year ! 2024 ! I was saying that with how it's framed, it's nearly impossible to have a good academics roster :
https://www.vlr.gg/372327/allow-t1-team-to-have-a-aca-in-t2
Some team already have, Riddle is made of 3 players from ZETA aca.
Also it is useful, for example KC in LoL have scouted good talent thanks to their academy team in LoL, when you want to think about long term, having an aca team is important, scouting is important but scouting become pointless if you don't have an academy team
Don't worry, we have also our big problem and I hate twice mush Germany than I have the USA (Germany is just the Vampire of EU), heart on both USian people and german people still
Not really the same, affiliate team create a weird situation where you kinda subcontract the detection of talent of a structure that don't have the same goal as you. The T2 team probably don't want to lose their good player if they are really good in T2, and it might really expansive to buy them (And if they dont need to buy to force the T2 team to give them the player, then the affiliate programm may be bad for T2 team that sign it)
It's not a race reason, it's something more cultural ! Every American people in a good environment are able ! It's just that statistically they have more chance to end into a bad environment
I tend to agree with that, I think if Riot didn't allow it, it was because they where afraid that it would make things unfair for other T2 teams
Swiss with team choosing their opponent at each turn could be so mush banter !
Using brain is fun ! I know you are American but I believe in you ! I'm sure you can use it and have the pleasure to feel what is it to think about structural problem and way to solve them, give proposition and think of a way to make things better !
You think they can find 3 girl strong enough to got to T2 India ?
Sounds weird, that mean ZETA can hire everyone in a T2 team, rename it "ATEZ" and everything could be possible ?
The JDG-BLG gonna be really intresting, RA vs NRGkillers
Isn't that a way to show that it's impossible in S4 to have a academic roster ?
Shall we allow T1 team to have an academy team in T2 ?
If yes, should they be allowed to compete in Ascension and get ascended ?
If yes, shall we let the team choose if they can compete in ascension and lose their player in case they got ascended or refuse to go to ascension and let their place for the next team. Or shall the player choose if they want to go to asc ?
With what happen to Riddle that are basically ex Zeta-Academy, I start to think about it.
And my conclusion is that I feel that not allowing T1 team to have a team in T2 is a bad thing, when you are a T1 team, you have to detect talents, and you have to keep them to promote them when you need them, but imagine you are a T2 talent with T1 potential, why would you stay in an academics team that cant compete in T2, if you aim T1 you have to play in T2, and if you are a young talent you will find a T2 team and leave the academy team. So that mean if you are a T1 team, you can't keep talents if you don't put them in a team that will have objective and you can't give them objectives if they cant go to T2 because thats the main objective of a non-T1 team, the next step before going to T1.
We have also to take in account the new rule that allow a T1 team to have a "mixed gender team" in T2, with this new rule KCGC can go to French T2 if they are good enough, and they can even have 2 male in that team (note that another new rule is that a team that qual to GCC go to T2 promo-relo), this rule is kinda weird, because it creates a weird optimal situation :
Imagine you want to detect new player, and you want to find a way to keep them : Main solution is to create a mixed roster with 2 young talent and 3 girls, but if you hire 3 girl just to play premier and hope to qual, it make sense to hire 2 girl more to play GC. So you end with 12 player (5 main roster, 3 girl in GC-T3, and 2girl and 2 males that will rotate with the 3 mains gilrs)
And this raise so mush more questions :
What are you thought guys ?
tldr, If you are a T1 competitive team wanting a T2 academy team you need :
Whow, the 3 Japanese player are from Zeta Academy ! (And the fact the 2 other player are from DFM is funny)
Does that mean ZETA has made a mistake if they didn't promote them ? What will happen if Riddle win ? Zeta will take their player back ? Or it's dead ?
I hate the fact T1 team cant have an academy team in T2 (That obviously cant qualify for ascention)
They are in looser bracket and have loose the 1 map :x
FS was my personal favorite before the start of playoffs but now...
What ? SPG are Zeta Academy ? Or is it Riddle ?
How is that possible to go 14-2 in RS, and choke that mush XD
Full Sense sounded as a favorite to me with Riddle, only 2 loose in regular season was impressive... But... Well... They are in 0-2 0-1 in plyaoffs and about to die, so RIP
It's interesting to see Riddle SPG are 2 potential favorite team that both come from T3/Premier
I'm kinda sure 1 month ago it was one of the first map people say when we ask the worst map
Every single map are hated when they got release, so we will need to wait before know if map is good or trash
Well in my idea east is VN-PH-HK-TW because thats the region where people have a better ping on HK than on SG, but I suppose in Rocket league it's not how thats work, right ?
Data after 2 week
Repartition of the 26 first team in T3 SEA :
To me the perfect split of T2/T3 would be :
Mongolia : If SEA have to be reunited in only 1 big T2 regions, the main server will obviously be Singapore (Since the 2 biggest subregion is ID and TH that are both optimal in SG). In Mongolia, Tokyo ping is slightly better than Singapore, and with the expansion of JP T2 teams and the contraction of SEA T2 teams it would make sense if Mongolia is group with Japan.
TW and HK : The fact TWHK player can play in CN without being count as an import while T2 SEA is now too competitive with the merge, TWHK T3 in SEA may potentially disappear in a near future, TWKH talent will probably pick CN.
Viet Nam : VN situation is concerning, they are really late compared to other subregion, if they are no rule preventing that a subregion to disappear completely to T2 that might happen really soon.
Idonesia : Best T2 region, they have less money but a bigger talent pool, since their population is almost half of Asean they may truly become the SEA powerfull in the future.
Thailand : That the country where the population decrease fast, but they are really good right now, historically TH is the best TH region (it's the only region that once send 2 team in an international event)
SG and MY : Small population, small number of team, lot of money, see how thing will go.
Philippines : Mid region, the population is the one that increase the fastest, maybe a bright future.
Cambodia : What if it was the first time a CB team go to T2 ? Sounds possible right now !
[1,17] GEN - RRQ [7,02] (GEN 86%) woopsie
Depend of the T2 region I think (Probably winner of split 2 go to Main Event, and best team in point go to playin)
Sadfully 50% this one is the last
"Wake up sis now you have one more game to play, not over ^-^"
Thats was an impressive comeback
Connected to this topic https://www.vlr.gg/360523/bet-on-odd-stage-2-megathread (You can still bet without money)
Poweranking
Almost nobody was playind this week :c
Poweranking of the bot
10 point gap = 54%
50 point gap = 70%
You can bet on odd here https://www.vlr.gg/360523/bet-on-odd-stage-2-megathread (it's just a contest no money involved)
Last week of NA
The Zeta might be dangerous
What are you talking about ? Stage 2 is litterally a full round robin
What 5.16 ? My bot only gave 3,53, they are nuts
With my stat and geograph bias I tend to see everything with thew those eyes, sometime it's usefull T.T
Also if 10 isn't enough, but you don't want to break the usual Japanese regions, Korea got almost the same region system and it just right next to
Same for rugby, new patchnote every year, football really need reform x)
I admit I don't really know how Japan league work, but looking at what they did on wiki that doesnt really make sense, if they wanting to make a league where team that participate are invited, it would have been better to pick something like, 10 or 12 team that represent one different city, or region like they does in Ireland :
Yeah it can be pretty awkward the first time you see it, but more time pass and more you become "fluent in rugby rules"
Also, top 3 among 4 team qualify is a nonsense (4/6 3rd qualified it's so weird), to me it could be interesting to have 3 pool of 8 team, with a doble (or triple) bracket system to emulate a swiss round (but materialised with a brackets to make it easier to follow). After 3 round you have :
So we keep 7 round maximum, and every group stage game matter
If a game with no goal is entertaining, that maybe because the bad quality of the game have just lowered your standard x)
Not really sure, more time pass and more I loss interest in football, so my proposition probably gonna be shit, but i'm sure some people can find better idea :
Maybe try to think out of the box to solve offside issue, (also really hard) :
https://www.vlr.gg/360523/bet-on-odd-stage-2-megathread bet here if you think your pred are good x)
Don't worry here it's not real money XD
Thats the worst meta ever, really, seriously when a team got a Free kick i'm more afraid for the team that won the free kick because they are more chance their opponent score in a counter attack T.T
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