People will get mad at you, but I agree. If lev don't get their act cleaned up they're not going to place in the top 4.

If the entire Lev team shows up (honestly a big if) this game is going to 5 maps

did you just say sayf? A guy who only plays duelists?

I'm not saying I agree if anything I think most people place too much of an emphasis on trophies but I digress + that doesn't apply to Sacy who played insane when Loud won and good when Sen won

They still played well enough + both those players contribute with their calling especially kingg who's their igl.

He basically plays whatever the fuck his team needs him to. Definition of a flex player.

lets give props to the overall best player in the series Mazino. Bro showed up on all 5 maps. His impact was huge this series.

he is not the better jett

no it's completely different. If you don't have an instant get away on op it's usually not worth it. There's a reason basically no team does it.

7/8

Comment might seem normal at first, but has diction that makes it seem like Tenz isn't as good of a player anymore (with the use of the term "downgraded" and "tragic"). Not a bad bait, keep it up buddy, you're doing numbers out here.

why is it the same 4 people baiting? Don't they have anything better to do?

I've seen enough send Turtle Troop to Champs instead of Sen

he said championship not masters

He's been underrated his whole career

yeah that's why I think he played it poorly. Just saying the situation wasn't favoring him at all to begin with.

ngl that's hard to win no dart, and odin isn't the greatest gun in a close range 1v1. c0m was by no means favored, but I do think he played it poorly.

THATS MY FUCKING GOAT

shouldn't you be making another bait thread? Come on bro do your job.

First 100T now Lev, someone tell that man to stop being a god in clutch situations

NOT LIKE THIS WHY DOES MTA ALWAYS MAKE BIG TIME PLAYS

I judged him way too early, he's genuinely turning out to be a solid player. Happy for him.

can you link the exact clip so i can see what they said? By the way a humble opinion doesn't change the fact that Masters are just stepping stones for the big event of the year, Champs.

util is debatable imo. Aim wise Chronicle clears. Most people place a heavy emphasis on trophies when it comes to what makes a player great. I'm just saying that if people do truly think that, then Sacy should be up there as well right next to Chronicle.

mechanically I agree, but how is Sacy lacking when it comes to achievements?

Yeah, but what you said is quite literally irrelevant to the argument you are trying to make.

I would too, but this is mostly a post to show that Sacy is in talks as one of the greats, especially with how many people don't even bring him up when they talk about who has achieved the most in valorant.

that quite literally adds nothing to this conversation. Doesn't change the fact that Champs is by far the most important tournament.

why? Are you telling me Madrid has equal importance to Champs? When I ask who won in 2023, your first thought is EG no? Champs is THE major of the year.

1 Champs win + 1 Non-Champs win > 3 Non-champs wins

Champs is the most important major of the year by far surely it has way more of an impact on someone's legacy no?

imagine c0m flanking on jett tho

they would win every game come on now

Just went through all the games to refresh my memory. Deadass everyone was fragging out on Loud even Sadhaak was going crazy in some games. Even if pancada was mvp there wasn't really a clear best player on Loud everyone did their part i guess.

That was the one tournament where Aspas wasn't clearly outfragging everyone else in most of the games. Who would of thought to win a champs you need your team to be firing on all cylinders.

Between him and Less no?

It's because everytime he won a championship he never was the best player on the team. He's like scottie pippen. Yes he does contribute a ton, yes he's arguably had the most successful career (no Champs yet so it's arguable), but his individual performance while really good has never been considered to be the best in a tournament win.

Aspas is the goat

I've seen enough prime yay was carried by Optic

he should be second under karon imo

I know. I completely agree that if you need calling and firepower (which is like 90 percent of teams) or even just fire power I would say he's the choice over Benji.

Aspas

his igl strat is everyone go kill

plus that would still just be prx style lol

If Hiro plays the way he did in regionals put him in top 10

Damn you feeling a no igl squad
just PRX style on em lol with this much firepower it might work

That's fair lol, but I would give credit where credit is due. Benjy might not stand out mechanically compared to other top Sentinel players, but as an Anchor, I wouldn't say anyone else is better from what I've seen (+ the fact that he can play kj + cypher well some sentinel players don't play both).

yeah all good I was a bit surprised when a TH fan called benjy bad lol

in terms of being a dedicated anchor, I would say benjy is better though even if Alfa clears in every other way. I don't think there's any player that can delay a teams push better than Benjy. And I think that's what this team needs the most since it's already so stacked.

not that good is insane, he may not be playing as well as last split, but he's still easily a top sentinel itw

I just put Aspas + f0rsaken + Chronicle on the same team and went from there lol. Imo the firepower and flexibility those three provide together is unparalleled to any other trio.

I can see the point for d4v4i. Secondary calling is good and valuable, but I wouldn't say he frags way better. Also, D4v4i util is good, but Benjy is probably the best anchor in the world at his best compared to D4v4i at his best. D4v4i or Alfa would easily be my second pick.

benjy is more flexible on sentinel though as he's able to play cypher as well. Plus he has better util usage.

all good lol

I might have fucked up if the TH fan doesn't agree with me lmao