I just want more input. Where are these guys globally?
I'd say there is a 'Top 2' in Optic and Loud rn. Optic is just the toughest mental to break in the game, and the Loud roster is just as good. I'd say that Grand Finals goes for Optic 6/10 times, and Loud 4/10. They are top 2.
Is FPX there? Fnatic wasn't the team we saw, I'm not counting them. It's more a talk of G2 and Liquid. Both teams didn't perform as they were projected, for the most part. G2 beat a pre-NICE Zeta, and then floundered out after back-to-back 2-0's. Liquid, as always, surprised us early in the tournament and then settled down and lost 2-1 to Loud, and 2-0 to PRX.
FPX had a decent time against Liquid in EMEA, and then they beat G2 with 2 maps being a loss and an overtime.
It's undeniable that they are EMEA #1 and close to the top of the global rankings, but these performances are against a worse Liquid, but a better G2.
Personally, I have FPX in the second division of top tier teams, beside the big 3 of Asia : PRX, DRX, and Xeta.