it’s just Xross erde at this point right?
thing is whoever goes further gets it regardless of Xross’s masters win tho
also if VIT somehow win Sayonara has a case for it
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if none of them get top 4 it's probably Neon
Him not making champs basically eliminates his case
nope
Timotino is the real roty
its erde
it’s gonna be GSR once he wins champs MVP
It’s gotta be erde for picking up the igl role and patching together a broken team, xross has been great but he’s been great on a great team, erde made a team great
Vora might have more of a claim than xross even
Vora might have more of a claim than xross even
https://www.vlr.gg/626544/nongshim-redforce-vs-paper-rex-valorant-masters-santiago-2026-gf
8 winstreak to start the year that culminated in this
instrumental in both bo5s he played up til that point
top-rated for NS in EWC
mightve ghosted in stage 2 gf but again, top-rated through the event on not just sova fade BUT phoenix jett too
erde is a more direct comparison with Vora and he teramogs despite vora’s 14W 1L green carpet (EWC + stage 2)
while a lot of 100T’s EWC S2 success is from vora you can’t deny it’s mainly because of Asuna priming
meanwhile if you scroll down on https://bobo-gg.net/articles/top10-champions-shanghai/ you’ll see why LOUD’s rookie IGL has better potential for a case than vora
I don’t think we disagree on anything
first part
“Vora might” and we’re talking about two scan players who both won internationals in their first year, both massively contributed to winning that international but kind of overshadowed by another team mates performance on a single role (dambi neon, asuna phoenix), they’re literally right next to each other in terms of rating in ewc, only substantial difference is vora igls as well and xross has a bit better stats
riot won’t take into account EWC when doing roty but i think for vlr we count it too
but people will weight a masters win (as sketchy as it was) more than an ewc win (even though 100T proved it wasn’t a fluke) after all
first of all there is a case for asuna’s phoenix peak being higher than dambi’s neon peak despite dambi being the best neon itw and best space creator itw, he was genuinely putting up unseen numbers across the stage (in groups at least)
in big games xross has more impact though you can argue vora as the igl has more to do across the whole event
xross flexed off scan when francis was figuring out his shit in stage 1 and he did insane
i think the debate is unique because in recent history we haven’t had a rookie IGL be in the ROTY debate
ultimately it’s whether you value IGLing or big numbers more, so yeah maybe he might but for a lot of people he doesn’t
If vora does something in champs like top 3 or higher, maybe.
Xross might be on an amazing team, but Erde or vora also have amazing teams.
Erde wasnt the only factor that made loud start winning. Tkzin and davih are both amazing ass players for rookies, darker was always a good player, and lukxo was one of he best rookies last year
Agreed but I also think erdes impact is more about making the team work as an igl and having more of a claim to the better cohesion loud had after he joined. Like they beat lev in split 1 after erde joined and started calling but before the other changes. Dont think loud could’ve done that without the kind of reversal in team momentum erde brought.
yes I agree, Erde's IGL'ing is way ahead of his age.
But I still personally believe unless he does something incredible in champs, ROTY is xross (if NS dont bomb out)
Should be neon
unless 100T LOUD NS all don’t reach finals neon will have to sit at home and continue watching as insane as he was
sopp if FUT win it 🤩
would be legendary in front of shanghai
thing is fut as a team is mid asf in regionals and mid asf in intls so stuff needs to happen for him to have a case, as good as he is
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