People who still complain about neon "breaking the integrity" of the game, "an agent that shouldn't be in the game", explain to me in a factual manner why you think neon should be nerfed to the ground, when her current state is already arguably worse than pre-buff, when agents such as iso or waylay exist and are completely fine?
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neon doesn't need a nerf
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Her ult is unusable (situational af), 1 stun, less fuel +slower fuel regen, arguably because indirectly she's "better" cuz sentinels got nerfed
wrong because just the fact that she has sideways sprint + nigh-perfect slide accuracy makes her much better than prenerfed. If she is only good because sentinels got nerfed, why is her use rate so much higher than every other movement duelist?
her ult is objectively worse though? went from secure round to sometimes usable
higher pick rate doesn't mean she's good either, sentinel nerfs js means u get punished less for running it down, ofc a movement duelist gets picked more in the current overall meta
her higher sideways speed isn't much either, its better in her ult, that's about it, slightly harder to track, doesnt mean she's "broken"
if she doesn't get value early on and wastes her slide and stun, she's pretty much useless in comparison to even jett
edit: slide accuracy still not broken, mid-range fights are already not as favorable for neon to slide in with no util, and if riot nerfs accuracy, just more shotgun abuse
Ult does NOT matter in any agent balance unless it's Phoenix. This is because you get them twice, MAYBE thrice in a half. It does not matter whatsoever. Even if it did, Neon ult is still great.
"Higher pick rate doesn't mean she's good" The game aside from few Ranked demon agents are balanced around pick rates.
"her higher sideways speed isn't much" Sideways sprinting is what fundamentally allows Neon movement to be so un-Valorant. If she couldn't jump around and sideways at the same speed she runs and jumps forward, pros will be able to reliably bodyshot the Neon.
"if she doesn't get value early on and wastes her slide and stun, she's pretty much useless" WOW you have not watched VCT in any way shape or form. The stamina bar which recharges is arguably as strong as the slide. I don't care if it recharges slowly, the fact that you have such a powerful ability that recharges passively is broken. It is one of the strongest crosshair breakers in Valorant, not to mention the Neon jump-peeks which every analyst agrees is busted.
Bonus: I'm not calling for a Neon-kill nerf. The devs just need to do something about the sprint-jumps. That's her biggest problem, don't touch the slide, simply rework the way the stamina bar and/or the sprinting mechanic.
yeah people were saying that she was useless and almost unplayable before they removed sentinels and initiators from the game lmao
and as someone who loved playing neon, she was so miserable to try and play when cypher and vyse were playable
she’s only this good because everything else is shit
revert 11.08 and neon won’t be a problem suddenly
She needs a nerf unless Riot decides to revert the t0nz patch where everyone is shit but agents such as Neon Yoru Viper is still good, which they probably won't, at least in a long time
Yoru dead, now needs Neon and Viper to be dragged down to everyone's level
Viper has been nerfed a million times already. She will continue seeing play because nobody else can do what viper does
I still don't get why people think she's "broken" though, still very counterable, unlike prime neon, which.., yea
Neon is pretty balanced apart from maybe her sprint timers in a shooting game I dont think u should have a character which can sprint almost always they should just change that(In a way which doesnt affect the core identity of neon)
I think everything apart from that is pretty balanced about her kit cuz unlike yoru she needs skills and there are agents in the game which counter her cypher, deadlock, vyse she feels very situational at times if ur teammates are not trading u properly and not coming with you, you are just a walking drone
She is not broken in that sense, plus she is also not viable in many maps with close spaces
Also the slide accuracy requires skills which most people dont have, she has smth in her kit which u need to practice and train into which involves a skill factor thus reducing her level
All this im saying is from a ranked pov but yeah she deff shouldnt be nerfed to ground like yoru she is way more balanced and way more weaker then what prime yoru was
It would be better to buff sentinels then nerfing everything in the game nerfs make the game boring and less fun imo, buffs on the other hand bring variety and improves overall power level
Yeah bro neon doesn't need a nerf! She can totally not run from one side of the map to the other multiple times! Yoru totally didn't get nerfed by destroying his tp ability that allowed site to site rotation! Tootally didn't get a flash removed either! The argument that shotguns need a nerf are funny to me, it's literal neon and raze users trying to cope and prevent their agents from being ruined. Whilst other agents constantly get nerfs like this, some even unnecesary nerfs. But neon? Nah; she can just casually run around like a complete mosquito on legs and then proceed to slide on you aswell. She does this with smgs aswell and rifles. Since for some reason riot decided to keep her accuracy the same! So how can you say it's shotguns that need the nerf. Sure you can argue the judge needs a nerf. But then again, in this game it's already incredibly hard to find a close range angle. Unless you don't clear properly. I'd say just lower the judge fire rate or damage. And nerf the hell out of neon. Her stun is perfectly fine. But besides that? Her ult is like a guaranteed ace half the time if u have decent tracking. And no I don't mean her ult needs a nerf, since reyna kinda has the same. But I mean: how is an agent this overpowered. And then also noted to be ''balanced'' by riot and neon users?
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