Damn veto value

Galactc

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Only took getting the ult and a couple of assumptions from crashies but I guess it exists

KiwiJuice

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I don't think it's the agent pick, it's just the team as a whole

SENfns

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trading a viper for a veto is a HUGE mistake in terms of agent pick

KiwiJuice

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well not necessarily veto for viper.

SENfns

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thats the tradeoff they took
viper works as a senti

KiwiJuice

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yeah but having viper and a senti is still pretty standard on Lotus, hence why it's not necessarily Veto for Viper

SENfns

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yeah i guess so
but i'd still say the primary lurker will always be Viper even if its viper + senti
Thats why his role on veto as the lurker is 1 to 1 with viper

Galactc

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It's a lot of things their strats seem fully confidence based so they fell flat when fnc started not playing horribly
Their comps also reflect what I just said I don't like them very much
It's a lot of things not just 1

Baibaiwoo

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echo chamber walking through a one way like that doesnt help, echo not clearing a 1hp veqaj on pistol didnt help. echo running while flanking with knife out didnt help. he just straight up trolled in the end