Lotus Comps

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#1
GambleNats
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Theres generally been 3 directions

  • Fnatic Comp [Single Duelist/Viper/Senti]
  • Neon Waylay with Viper
  • Neon Waylay with Senti

Which do you believe to be the best

#2
catNmouse
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fnatic comp

#4
GambleNats
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Any specific reason why

#7
catNmouse
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i think a lot of teams will play neon waylay as opposed to the yoru so vyse will have an easier time dealing with double duelist aggression

#3
MrBlooBloom
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Fnatic archetype
G2 archetype
PRX archetype

PRX was the best one last year I'm pretty sure, we'll see what it looks like this year

#5
GambleNats
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logically looks the weakest to me, especially with vyse flash nerfs. but maybe it cooks idk

#6
MrBlooBloom
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it's better against double duelist I think, but not against double ini or double smokes

#15
GambleNats
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its just hard to reclear A without viper

#19
MrBlooBloom
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it is but I don't think it's much of an issue with this comp

#8
Raize1
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Fade
Waylay
Kj
Breach/Neon
Astra/Omen

#9
catNmouse
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breach over viper?

#23
MrBlooBloom
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breach lmfao

#10
Galactc
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Idk but if I see more cypher I'm going to lose faith in vct

#12
GambleNats
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yeah vyse is clearly the better option imo

#13
Galactc
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Kj is being very underrated tbh where did she go

#14
GambleNats
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Mainly the problem with waylay, neon (also when yoru was popular) prominence. she cant really hold a site with those 2 on every team

#17
Galactc
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True but asking a sentinel to hold a site after the util changes is in my opinion asking for too much just go stall or play retake which are 2 things kj can definitely do

#20
GambleNats
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KJ doesnt have nearly enough stall power needed, Vyse is just stronger in that aspect. Main reason to play KJ is her ult + info.
Thats why she is stronger on maps like pearl where there are 4 lanes in the map

#16
I_LOVE_LESS
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tejo as an agent kinda completely ruins kj and while he isnt as popular as he was he's still just a hard counter if you end up playing kj

#24
Galactc
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That's true but I thought you needed both missiles to pop the ult and realistically unless you are absolutely confident the ult is going off there's no reason to save both missiles in most cases so surely it's not that bad

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breaking the ult isnt necessary most of the time when ur missiles can just cancel the flood off the ult pop which buys u time to reset, its more the fact kj has to play close to her util which can all be destroyed by a single missile, and because she has to play close to util theres a much higher chance of the drone catching her

#11
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i think viper is too important on the map
i prefer viper + vyse but thats when vyse still had info so idk if she's worth rn

#18
nooomy
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Waylay Neon Skye Omen Cypher

#21
GambleNats
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skye has always been worse than fade on this map. Even when she was uber good in 2023

#22
SudokuDude
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NRG's comp too. Brawktaliban.

#25
GambleNats
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thats just the fnatic comp

#26
SudokuDude
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oh I didn't peep my fault

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