4 games first impression meta

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Still too soon since we havent seen the top seed teams yet but heres the first impression of kickoff americas meta:

Maps played: Haven, Abyss (3), Corrode, Bind (2), Pearl (2), Breeze, Split

Haven:
Yoru - Sova - Viper - Omen - Killjoy (LOUD X C9, LOUD L)
Neon - Sova - Viper - Omen - Killjoy (LOUD X C9, C9 W)

Abyss:
Yoru - Sova - Astra - Harbor - Chamber (LOUD X C9, LOUD L)
Waylay - Sova - Breach - Astra - Veto (LOUD X C9, C9 W)
Yoru - Sova - Breach - Astra - Veto (EG VS ENVY, EG W)
Yoru - Sova - Iso - Omen - Viper (EG VS ENVY, ENVY L)
Waylay - Sova - Tejo - Omen - Astra (KRU VS FURIA, FURIA W)
Yoru - Sova - Kayo - Omen - Chamber (KRU VS FURIA, Kru throaway comp, L)

Corrode:
Waylay - Yoru - Fade - Omen - Viper (EG X ENVY, ENVY W)
Waylay - Yoru - Sova - Omen - Viper (EG X ENVY, EG L)

Bind:

Yoru - Waylay - Skye - Brimstone - Viper (EG X ENVY, ENVY W)
Yoru - Waylay - Fade - Brimstone - Viper (EG X ENVY, EG L; 100T VS LEV, LEV L)
Waylay - Skye - Chamber - Brimstone - Viper (100T VS LEV, 100T W)

Pearl:

Neon - Yoru - Fade - Astra - Killjoy (KRU VS FURIA, Kru throaway comp, W)
Neon - Fade - Kayo - Astra - Chamber (KRU VS FURIA, FURIA L)
Waylay - Fade - Kayo - Astra - Chamber (100T VS LEV, 100T L)
Waylay - Tejo - Kayo - Astra - Chamber (100T VS LEV, LEV W)

Breeze:

Jett - Sova - Kayo - Viper - Chamber (KRU VS FURIA, Kru throwaway comp, L)
Yoru - Jett - Sova - Viper - Astra (KRU VS FURIA, FURIA W)

Split:
Waylay - Skye - Sage - Omen - Viper (100T VS LEV, 100T W)
Waylay - Yoru - Fade - Omen - Viper (100T VS LEV, LEV L)

Some insights:

  • Kru comps are probably non-official cause it is a sub squad with a sub coaching staff so probably meta irrelevant
  • Apart from similarities none of these comps is fully mirrored which is fun
  • Skye 2 games 100% WR against fade on bind
  • Double duelist still going strong
  • Double smoke also going strong
  • Veto-Breach seems strong on abyss
  • Viper is still the top used agent lol
  • As expected, traditional info sentinels seems dead, with teams going with either Chamber for the awping option or Viper/Astra for double smoke (Veto on abyss and Killjoy on pearl and Haven are exceptions)
  • Brimstone as expected is bind only, Astra is appearing more as a viable main/second smoke
  • Sova reign again with Fade as a alternative, Skye is good on Split and Bind
  • Waylay is the top solo duelist, Yoru is viable but works better as 2nd, Jett appears on Breeze
  • 16 agents used in 22 maps: Yoru 13x, Viper 13x, Waylay 12x, Sova 10x, Omen 9x, Astra 8x, Chamber 6x, Fade 5x, Brimstone 4x, Kayo 4x, Killjoy 3x, Neon 3x, Breach 2x, Veto 2x, Jett 2x, Iso 1x
#2
kfan4238173
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skye clears fade on bind and split this is true

#3
foythvlr
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skye - waylay is a underrated duo, 100t was straight up bullying lev on TR with these two

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kfan4238173
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ive been saying bro... skye+waylay is so cool and it opens a lot of options for other agents
i like it on corrode too but idt ive seen anyone play it before

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Ive made a similar post to this before the season began as well. I think skye, tejo and kay-o gonna get much more pickrate and much more wins after cooldown nerfs to sova/fade. I think we see traditional initiators get played on maps from now on instead of sova/fade every map.

I think skye could replace sova/fade on Split, Bind and Haven out of the maps in the map pool. Tejo still seems viable on almost every map if you want to play that exec heavy style. We saw abyss, pearl and bind comps work with tejo in the past even after the nerfs. Split could be a good tejo map as well because it is such a similar map to Bind in terms of agent diversity.

I think every initiator pickrate is gonna be around 15-25%. No 50% sova, 45% fade pickrates anymore

#6
notepicfailboi
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sova is just too good on haven tho. skye doesnt get that kind of value. if you really want flashes, play yoru with the sova

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Don't think Haven meta will change, this comp is too good to be replaced now unless theres a major agent shakeup or one team creates a entire new philosophy for it (which i can see happen on APAC mostly) but other than that yeah agree Skye will be played more on Bind and Split and we will see more initiator diversity

We can already see some of this happens. Today Lev played without a Scan on Pearl (Kayo and Tejo) and it was pretty alright. It was the best game of the season so far and the three maps were won for the team that didn't have a scan, which is crazy (although the map pick allowed that in a way). Im curious to see what G2 MIBR and NRG will cook so i can have a more rounded opinion but like i said on the other reply Skye + Waylay seems like a very good duo on some maps and i want to see it explored more

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Waylay is the top solo duelist, Yoru is viable but works better as 2nd, Jett appears on Breeze

are you sure it’s not the other way around?

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foythvlr
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Yoru is 1-2 as solo duelist, Waylay is 5-1 (although one win was with one loss and another was against kru so technically 3-0)

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Best Yoru and Viper teams will make the Finals at Santiago.

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foythvlr
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We still have to see how top teams play + Other region but yeah i would say a good skye and waylay will also make a big difference

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