Getting mass downvoted for speaking the truth,
If nats is so good why can't he lurk his way through a group stage?
Nats' legacy
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Bro thinks that Valorant is a individual game.
Also how much bait do you need to post? Are you really that hungry for interaction.
what is with this nats has no help narrative, he has won domestic titles, now do it globally if you are all that
It's because he's leading teams that are inexperienced in the international stage, and 1 of his 3 chances were ruined and he still smashed mibr even with 3 hours of sleep and almost beat the tournament winners
are we celebrating beating mibr in Toronto ? Who is a rookie on this team btw ?
I'm saying pretty much none of them went to internationals an had no experience, keiko himself had problems with the pressure at champs, serialkiller was chill but never went to international, same with kamo, only pati and nAts had experience. And I am, since you have the mibr flair
they went to two lans this year, WON the split before champs, and then got grouped, was this also due to inexperienced players?
Yes, because they couldn't replicate their playstyle internationally, the pressure and lack of prep time contributed to this
Right, now that they have had three lans to get grouped at, instead of two, pressure should be off now and we should be able to replicate our play style, 2026 isnt ready for us #TLWIN. Weird how it doesn't take other teams 3 LANS to get used to the international stage
0/8 bro, we nuked our roster again, we will win this year, 2025 was only a 'budget' roster and a test
yet they want pati to explore. sickening option. He can help miniboo with success in Liquid.
oh yeah kicking out sayf was stupid. They had jamppi as well. If they kept him and make him IGL, they prob would have been in playoffs lol.
It's just that sayf and redgar were arguing cuz of how to igl, liquid management decided to kick them both for some reason
I thought sayf had an issue with the higher ups. Where can I find the redgar and sayf argument
First you said "If nats is so good why can't he lurk his way through a group stage?" which is ttalking solely about individual performance without taking into account his team or other factors.
Second Nats has won globally so you can't say anything
Finally, Nats has patitek which is basically just Zellsis who tilts more, Kamo who is the most mediocre duelist in EMEA and Trexx who causes issues wherever he goes and mentally fucks the team.
Stop shit talking when you clearly haven't watched Valorant past this year.
and you on the other hand, cant make a compelling argument so u d ride my replies LMAO
You obviously cannot read if I haven't made a compelling argument. Furthermore, it seems like it is more or less your prejudice that is prohibiting you from understanding why, which is why you reject my arguments, that are somehow not compelling, without providing constructive criticism or reasons why. With all of these factors, I declare you a baiter, or a very stubborn infantile idiot that cannot provide an actual argument.
you told me the reason they cant perform at interntionals is because of nerves when they attended four this year get a grip lad
0/8
4 Internationals for sure...
Humans are different, everyone at tl clearly felt the pressure to peform, which led to them being more prone to making mistakes, which is why they couldn't make it out of groups.
However, in their elim games Liquid only lost to teams that placed top 3 in the same tournament.
Bro is cracking under the lies he has sown
You say this like you are on the team and talk to the players every day. Parasocial take and speculative at best. Tough competition sure, but if they/he was the goat like you all claim he should be able to beat at least one of those teams to get out of groups, but I guess we will never know
I say this because I've seen how they play all year long, I can tell when they play confident or when they play nervously. Nats also just can't 1v5 teams, bringing a team to 3 internationals in his 1st year of igling is an achievement of itself
play on words,
that was 4 years ago entirely different game,
he has had teams win domestic tittles and he can't convert it to anything past a group stage at internationals
The excuses that you guys come up with for this guy because you like his set ups are mental.
I clearly told you the reason why, and yet you still persist. Stubborn and closed-minded.
I don't even like nats, I have made a post about how I hate liquid and don't like nats in the past, but I can at least recognize that he's a good player. And yes he is overrated, but that doesn't change the fact that he's one of the best Sentinel players in VCT.
Also, if you say "that was 4 years ago entirely different game," you can say that about every teams trophy since the game is different at every international event.
don't get me wrong, nats is a good player, a value add to any team fs, but it pisses me off when i see these bots putting him top5 when he has done absolutely nothing internationally in the past three years<
as mentioned before he is a good player, but not goat status like some of the people claim, also ur telling me that the likes of dapr,zombs, bonecold, kiles etc should be held to the same pedigree as players like ethan, forsaken, metoer etc. It is apples and oranges, and until nats does something in the current year (or even last three if we want to be generous) then he should be nowhere near the top 10 convo, let alone goat convo
you have to respect the fact he invented lurking and motivational speaking tho.
people can say youre wrong but nats hasnt been good since like 2021 😂😂guess cypher setups cant carry a bad player
don't get me wrong, nats is a good player, a value add to any team fs, but it pisses me off when i see these bots putting him top5 when he has done absolutely nothing internationally in the past three years
All of the viper guides on bind are automatically inspired by nAts
He Lwk carried at Bangkok, did alright/decent at Toronto.
Champs was his fault tho
The players were given control of when to pracc and they couldn't efficiently manage it, so it's kinda on the team as well.
He leads the team, if the team can’t pracc well it’s on him. Plus he pulled one hell of a stinker
How dare you talk bad about the guy who invented concept of lurking in the history of Earth
mibr fans are the new sen/paper rex fans just fucking care about your own baitpas and zeeken addral sniffer
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