VCT RAGE RIDDLE

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pancaX

Can you find the match?

PLAYERS:

One champions winner.
Two masters winning players.
Two champions winners or losers finalists.
ONLY four players that have played at least 5 games in franchising.

HINTS

Match was not played in Americas OR BY TEAMS IN THE AMERICAS. (Big cooldown I will answer any questions in the edit)
@CrackedDuelist: "is it any game on international stage or regionals?"
The game was played regionally, not internationally.
The match takes place in EMEA but NOT in 2025.
Answer deals with Champs 25. The match takes place before franchising exists.
https://www.vlr.gg/team/1209/guild-esports

ANSWER

https://www.vlr.gg/11012/fnatic-vs-guild-esports-champions-tour-europe-stage-1-challengers-2-qualifier-play-in-qf

#2

babalanga

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give hint 2

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SENfns

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does match not played in americas mean it could've been an international game between 2 americas teams?

#4

Inort

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Somewhere in EU mhmm
FNC vs TH?

#5

ARix145

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100% emea game

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Teunoin

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its a vitality game, less as winner, derke as on more winner, less as losing finalist

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Shadow_Monarch

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A game with Less. This one? https://www.vlr.gg/429390/team-vitality-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-2025-emea-kickoff-gf

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CrackedDuelist

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but pancada always played in americas

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Shadow_Monarch

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Changed to Less.

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229fn

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Two champions winners or losers finalists.

what does this even mean? does this mean there is 1 champs winner and 1 champs runner up?

#10

CrackedDuelist

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i am confused on that one, but since the point 1 is one champs winner maybe this means one winner and the other one lost a champs final

#11

229fn

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thats what i thought

#14

pancaX

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Two of the players made it to either winners or losers finals of any champions. I did not say a runner-up.

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1dan1x

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winners or losers finals

by that you mean Upper Bracket and Lower Bracket Finals?

#17

Laundry

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Oh so like upper/lower final

#12

SENfns

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ITS KC VS SOMEONE BUT IDK WHO

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CrackedDuelist

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is it any game on international stage or regionals?

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SENfns

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KC vs TL
saadhak - champs winner and finalist
nAts - champs finalist, masters winner
Suygetsu - masters winner
all players have 5 series in franchising
https://www.vlr.gg/459856/team-liquid-vs-karmine-corp-champions-tour-2025-emea-stage-1-w5

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Shadow_Monarch

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OR
this https://www.vlr.gg/429390/team-vitality-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-2025-emea-kickoff-gf
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i think both fit the criteria

#23

pancaX

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It is neither, only 4 players played in franchising for at least 5 games in the correct game. The match does take place in EMEA.

#21

CrackedDuelist

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in either of cases i think liquid has to be their as nats fills 2 criteria

#22

SENfns

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i thought kc would have fit cuz they have saadhak and suygetsu ngl
but either way i've essentially fulfilled all the "criteria"

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SENfns

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https://www.vlr.gg/184037/team-heretics-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-w4
or
https://www.vlr.gg/213194/team-liquid-vs-team-vitality-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-ur1

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1dan1x

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wait thats it no?

#26

pancaX

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My wording was bad, this would have been correct with my OG rules. I am so sorry. The answer has only 4 players who played 5+ games in franchising. To apologize, answer deals with Champs 25. The match takes place before franchising exists.

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Shadow_Monarch

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Your wordings were terrible I give up. Before franchising, yeah not looking that up.

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foythvlr

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?
https://www.vlr.gg/99245/og-ldn-utd-vs-acend-champions-tour-stage-2-emea-challengers-group-stage-week-1

#29

1dan1x

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does bonkar count as champs winner?

#30

pancaX

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Yes that was what I built the puzzle around bonkar winning champs. I forgot to specify some things though so people thought it was Less or Saadhak and post franchising. I didn't want to make it to easy but it was too hard and not fun instead lol.

#31

1dan1x

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I dont think thats bad, its a hard puzzle but the categories are the most important thing
because idk if the categories can overlap or not and what winners or losers finalists means

#32

pancaX

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I give up. I might make a new one with what I know now on how to make a puzzle. This was the answer: https://www.vlr.gg/11012/fnatic-vs-guild-esports-champions-tour-europe-stage-1-challengers-2-qualifier-play-in-qf. The winners and losers finalists wording was bad because doma made winners finals but never played in grands.

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Shadow_Monarch

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Had a feeling it was old FNC before franchise. Didnt want to go searching for it though.