G2 hate is different

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Uncleben
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I’ve noticed a lot of people defending the g2 hate by saying it’s normal and all trash talking teams get it, but they don’t.
If heretics or liquid lose they just get called frauds and people call for them to dropped.
Even when g2 play well people make constant fat jokes about them, I’ve seen a few people make fun of leafs illness as well. There’s no other team that gets as much personal hate directed to the players as g2, which is why it’s different

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Uncleben
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I mean look at shit like this https://x.com/onerpilled/status/1971968211362206001?s=46

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m0rtem
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tbf that guys Korean

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delighted
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half korean half filipino, pretty sure the guy speaks tagalog asw

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Oni_APAC
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dk why that's relevant? because he's filipino should he support NA? PH is still in APAC which got ALOT of shit talk from NA this server was FILLED with APAC trashtalk especially from G2 flairs on PRX G2 day match

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m0rtem
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yeah I have never seen this much fat jokes about a team other than g2. literally riens and boo are fat as fuck

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Uncleben
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All them apac fans especially, like Davai ain’t built like a bullfrog and Jemkin ain’t fat as well
Even vlr mods are biased, got muted in vlr for saying Zekken needs to brush his teeth but every g2 thread gets a different person calling them fat/chopped and mods don’t care

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Alint
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never disrespect my goat boo

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Yistyy
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Most of it is ragebait and you're falling for it, no?

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Uncleben
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I don’t think it’s count as rage baiting when it’s about people’s bodies/personal shit
That’s definitely too far, you can call it soft but people justify everything as just banter but get pissy at mild trash talk back

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Togex
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Yeah I find it ironic how some people will justify their body-shaming and personal attacks because of some light banter in a video game competition

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Yistyy
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Yeah personal attacks is too far. But getting clowned on for losing is just part of the game and totally fine.

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Uncleben
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That’s perfectly fine and normal, I can even understand why g2 gets hated in game. Only problem is they get why more hate on their appearance and similar things than any other team in valorant, but because they don’t have big fan base no one really cares

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Togex
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My theory about this is that the team is so good in game that haters have to resort to out of game stuff to hate on them

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Uncleben
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Part of it is the g2 brand as well.
Also, g2 is a European org so most g2 fans are Europeans, who aren’t gonna support a north Americas team, hence why g2 have few fans
They also don’t have big streamers on their team (unlike tenz/zekken/som/aspas)

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body shaming and personal attacks are a big no-no for me, while i disliked g2's trash talk and cocky behavior these attacks are not justified at all

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Cockmeister
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Did you also cry about the death threats sent from Brazilians to the Heretics players?

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Uncleben
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The Brazilian fans definitely went overboard with the way they harassed heretics players, but let’s not pretend that it’s been happening the entire year like with g2
Also, g2 gets similar comments even when they win…

I also don’t get what ur point is. Even if that is wrong, the personal hate g2 gets can also be too far. It’s not a zero sum thing

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CrackedDuelist
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2 wrongs don't cancel out, this is the exact attitude as "why am i being arrested for crime when there are other criminals as well"

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JonahPork
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Brazilians have been receiving backlash for the hate they send to pro players since before Valorant even existed man

#21
FNSaimcoach9
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brazil fans are legit retarded....like their team gets a once in a lifetime performance and suddenly everyone gets all too excited abt it

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ImTheKing
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These twitter people are the worst, absolute degenerates.

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SleepingSnorlax
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There is a new world of side we haven’t seen yet this just surface level my boi I’m glad I am not one of these mf to try to act cool by downplaying others. I just want to stay afaik from this

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G2 are definitely a good team but they get hated because everyone keeps glazing them as best team, team that plays perfect valo but have not won anything internationally. second the team itself has been very arrogant and disrespects other teams / players despite losing to them and it's not 1-2 members but all of them including coach.
It could be a team culture or their own personal way to motivate themselves but It does not comes in good light in public.
Example: in match against DRX they let DRX's 2 best maps - Abyss and Bind open and in post-match interview G2 coach said they have all 7-map pool and they are good with all maps. (it's true to some extent but you need to think strategically and not use your ego and over-confidence during map picks)

If they had respected the opponents and choose maps which were not very strong for DRX, they could have won

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Uncleben
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That’s ok, and it’s banter if they get hate, but the type of hate they get is not the same as other teams, because like half of it is about their appearance

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Jayde
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Personally i dont like the team much but what some people say about them is going way too far, if u dnt like a team just stay silent and dont insult them

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I think all g2 hate is kinda justified because - "You can't give charity when you yourself are a beggar." They trashtalk every other team and you expect their fan gonna stay silent after humbling g2 . No thats not how world works . You see PRX before toronto they also come 2nd 3rd . But they never trash talked , but g2 fellas think they are the best in the world . They only won regionally this year becuase all other NA team was struggling .You can take example of last year vct's when theirs a team in NA who isnt struggling , they won easiy against g2.

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Uncleben
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That has nothing to do with attacks on how they look. Also, I’ve seen something stand up and talk shit before, and I’ve definitely seen buzz/stax talk shit, not to mention munchkin obviously. You see boaster Alfa talking shit from eu, and narrate and zellsis shittalk all the time. No one’s attacking their appearances in return.

You can trash talk g2 and call them frauds, but attacking their personal appearance is not the same.

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saket
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For something part man he dont talk trash first . He always response when other team is standing and trashtalking . You can see g2 game this year , torronto ,ewc billibilli match , last year madrids masters against th . And for boaster part man they have 2 international trophy , you first win and thentrash talk it will be fine . But after winning nothing literally nothing and being callled superteam orr whatever , people gonna hunt you down . You can see every creator / casters prediction starting this year, they hyped g2 like they are the best team , but in reality they werent . For personal attack its very bad but you can not do nothing, its part of life , you have to live with it .

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Uncleben
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I disagree with this last statement you made, there are definitely boundaries and talking about behavior like that is definitely positive. I don’t think we should just allow personal attacks because that’s the way life is.
I’m not at all saying g2 shouldn’t get criticism because of their trash talk. But that criticism needs to be kept to in game stuff. Because other cocky ass teams like th don’t get commends on their personal appearance like g2.

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Yes, but its 1-2 players in each team not entire team including coach. and Everyone loves it when there is 1-2 such trash talking players or players who stand and their arrogance generally ends after the match and we see their humble and jolly sides in other segments or content and when other loose like Fnatic, T1, Sen, they openly say they played shit and opponents were a better team today, whereas G2 never accepts their mistake or their weakness.

Boaster trash talks on stage but has good relationship with many other players example prx
TH also trash talks, but they also have good relationship with other teams and players.
Same for Sen like we saw Zellsis and Suifat at Toronto and there will be many other examples.

It's not that G2 are bad, or their players are evil, but over time as they were getting hate they started doing more and more stuff that was getting them hate and not it seems like it has become a team culture

In valo its imp to balance both trash talking on stage and then being kind and open and accepting off stage

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markass_brownee
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Finally more people are talking about this

How can a team get SO MUCH hate? I bet they'd still get called fat even if they won Champs

I don't get it like leave these guys alone, they're not doing anything disruptive

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