To be honest, I actually really really liked SEN since I got into VCT in late 2021 (when they had their downfall), and i liked them all the way till 2024, but when they won Madrid I found that I didn't really like SEN. It's not because of the players (I like John and Zekken, and Kaplan is so cool too), it's ONLY because the fanbase was so obnoxious about SEN and kpopifying/objectifying the players even, idolizing them (and turning a blind eye to narrate and zellsis very conveniently lol), lots of toxicity and just a lot of weird people in that fanbase drove me so far away from it. So many parasocial people not willing to see the game in favor of swooning over the players just kind of pissed me off, even though I liked the coaching staff and (most) players! I just don't want to associate with.... them. so it's not like I hate SEN, but purely so I don't get to see THOSE people win, I would prefer that they lose.
Sorry for yap.