can we all agree

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KanyeAsada

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crashies and leo are the two best initiators in the world nobody else comes close

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1mBor3d

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yep easily

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Dolphin

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Trick aim clears

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BayArea

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My goat TrickAIM says that Leo doesn’t even come close to crashies

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TmhariMummy

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Leo>Crashies

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titanwithpp

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cum clears crashies

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Waking_W

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Too early

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blitzz_

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and Chronicle/Vic top 2 flex

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GreyDaze

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Forsaken>Victor as a flex

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Yessirskiiii

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Leo is clear of Crashies respectfully

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GreyDaze

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Common knowledge

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Swxtch

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False

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atleast they both clear Shao

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Tashfeen

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imo it’s so close that either have the ability to diff the other depending on the day

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Yessirskiiii

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There's a noticable gap

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GreyDaze

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It's not as close as u think it is

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Shao clears crashit

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RonaldMcDonald

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Delusion

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Cresp

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Would say shao but shao has a worse initiator pool.
No skye or breach unlucky

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TrialRunnr

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no cum cresp?

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Cum is big brain, can play any role to insane potential.

I dont rate him for his actual play even tho he is actually p good. I rate him for his midrounding and his understanding of what he should do to win rounds.

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It's because he has a flasher on the team. Shao is info initiator and Zyppan is flash initiator. NAVI rarely play double flashes, and when they do, Ange1 likes to do it.
Shao can play flashers too.

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Waking_W

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Stax was a demon in champs but whatever

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Moiraine

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Respectfully, Crashies is not in the same tier as Leo and shao.

#25

KanyeAsada

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respectfully, crashies clears shao effortlessly

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Targu1n

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shao isnt even an initiator atm

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titanwithpp

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And someone said crashies is one of the best initiators in the world

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