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nAts viper

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#1
Caliburn0723

It has been hot minute since he competed in top level VCT.
But still I am yet to see someone who is yet to play viper as effective as him.
He creates impact mid round and late round.
Very rare for a vipers to do that good.
Any other good viper mains who can compete at his level?

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asdfghjkl
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curry but they took him off it (i'm not joking stage 1 he was insane)

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jawn
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mako? maybe? idk

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tronunz
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.

#5
Caliburn0723
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jawn [#3]

mako? maybe? idk

Yup, he is a world class controller on any role

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Caliburn0723
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tronunz [#4]

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Korean controller overlord, not as good as viper as nats, but he is a top level player on any smokes

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MaKo/Marved

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Caliburn0723
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asdfghjkl [#2]

curry but they took him off it (i'm not joking stage 1 he was insane)

Not anywhere close to the level of nats in gunplay and viper utility.
But curry is a lovely dude. Hope he gets a better team

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Caliburn0723
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Yicko [#7]

MaKo/Marved

Jimmy with the stimmy is not that good on viper(biased)

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Asphyxia
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Caliburn0723 [#5]

Yup, he is a world class controller on any role

He is a world class player on any agent, not just controllers, man is an absolute legend. He used to be a jett one trick, and now he's this.

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asdfghjkl
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Caliburn0723 [#8]

Not anywhere close to the level of nats in gunplay and viper utility.
But curry is a lovely dude. Hope he gets a better team

not at the moment what i'm trying to say is back then he would've been a walmart nats

#12
Taramissu
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Mako, Sscary

#13
Asphyxia
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Poach and Andersin are always great to watch, Sscary is insane, MaKo is world class like everyone is saying.

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edtheking12
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Caliburn0723 [#9]

Jimmy with the stimmy is not that good on viper(biased)

cuz viper is fns' agent

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RickyIndian
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jawn [#3]

mako? maybe? idk

mako's aim is insane but i dont think his utility gets as much impact as other viper players

#16
wewZ
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edtheking12 [#14]

cuz viper is fns' agent

let daddy use viper

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Yicko
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Asphyxia [#13]

Poach and Andersin are always great to watch, Sscary is insane, MaKo is world class like everyone is saying.

ma boy just brought up Poach and Andersin in the same convo as nats

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whysoup
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Asphyxia [#10]

He is a world class player on any agent, not just controllers, man is an absolute legend. He used to be a jett one trick, and now he's this.

Basically all of DRX is a bunch of Jett players they made switch roles haha

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Asphyxia
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Yicko [#17]

ma boy just brought up Poach and Andersin in the same convo as nats

hey, I love them.

#20
number1_ScreaM_fan
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nivera was kinda good on viper duirng champs but probs not nats level

#21
Nisham
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whysoup [#18]

Basically all of DRX is a bunch of Jett players they made switch roles haha

besides Zest and Stax

#22
PurpleTiger1
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marved lurks are insane

#23
PRLV
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Mako, sScary
Marved brim and omen are good but viper is eh

#24
queueK
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marved on icebox specifically has a super similar playstyle to berlin nats

other than that, I don't think anyone gets that type of impact consistently.

#25
trola
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i think not yet honestly, even other pro imitated his viper gameplay

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archetype
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MaKo and sScary are the only two who come close. Marved is good but his Viper is the weakest agent compared to his Brim and Omen. If Less consistently played like how he did during UBGF Icebox he could be up there too.

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whysoup
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Nisham [#21]

besides Zest and Stax

Stax the og breach god

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xLeo
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archetype [#26]

MaKo and sScary are the only two who come close. Marved is good but his Viper is the weakest agent compared to his Brim and Omen. If Less consistently played like how he did during UBGF Icebox he could be up there too.

agreed

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Nisham
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whysoup [#27]

Stax the og breach god

He had some off performances early in the tournament, didnt come online against Optic but man that ace on split against Zeta was something else

#30
wizardbot
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asdfghjkl [#11]

not at the moment what i'm trying to say is back then he would've been a walmart nats

Yep I remember one series I think against SEN? Where he sat in spawn all series and still won so much rounds for them lol, he used to have a lot of impacts from his lurks back then

#31
zzzzzzzzz
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nats bilt dif

#32
DeluluGavin
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Mako, Marved (his omen better tho), sscary

#33
Lil_nAts
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gambit is strong in my mind and nats is my favor pro.but what the reason gambit lost vs g2 and fnc?

#34
doosean
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RickyIndian [#15]

mako's aim is insane but i dont think his utility gets as much impact as other viper players

Fam what do you... oh wait, flair checks out

#35
doosean
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Few people have made a strong case, however, no one is as impactful as nAts, and probably won't be as M3C/Gambit have a playstyle that create opportunities for nAts to have the impact he is having on agents that can solo hold a site, or go on a solo lurk. Unless someone utilizes their comps to this extent, we won't see a site anchor be as impactful as he is.

#36
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I watch him stream sometimes, and his timing when using viper is just insane, it just feels like he's cheating, he knows when to push, when to hold, when to create space

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ciro
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Honestly dont think there is any viper player at the level of Berlin nAts

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Nisham [#29]

He had some off performances early in the tournament, didnt come online against Optic but man that ace on split against Zeta was something else

and the 1v5 vs PRX too

#39
deadSQUAD
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nats can play any agent and he still would have the same impact.

#40
Nisham
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archetype [#38]

and the 1v5 vs PRX too

Definitely, man is NSANE when given the opportunity and doesn't have to support anyone. I feel like the DRX game plan limits him a lot.

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raynexo
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Caliburn0723 [#8]

Not anywhere close to the level of nats in gunplay and viper utility.
But curry is a lovely dude. Hope he gets a better team

t1 is a good team.

#42
Shownu
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number1_ScreaM_fan [#20]

nivera was kinda good on viper duirng champs but probs not nats level

Rare L

#43
raynexo
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nats is really good. but you are just asking a really irrelevant question. playing an agent at a certain level is really not important. its the player that matters and there are a lot of good controller players.

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Omega_lul
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Lil_nAts [#33]

gambit is strong in my mind and nats is my favor pro.but what the reason gambit lost vs g2 and fnc?

Fnc went 22-24 map 3

G2 played one game last 10 days
Gambit played 6 in 9 days on different patches

#45
brado
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Less was dominant on icebox playing Viper iirc

#46
whysoup
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Nisham [#40]

Definitely, man is NSANE when given the opportunity and doesn't have to support anyone. I feel like the DRX game plan limits him a lot.

DRX seems to really suffer when it comes to drawn out tourney formats. They always come out with new stuff but the further they go and more film there is on them, the easier they become to read. It was slightly better with Zest this time around but still need something more to take that next step

#47
factsonly
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but truth is nobody still comes close to Nats, he has been farming since beta, so many vods of him most teams target him and review him

yet he frags changing his playstyle every tournament

#48
factsonly
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factsonly [#47]

but truth is nobody still comes close to Nats, he has been farming since beta, so many vods of him most teams target him and review him

yet he frags changing his playstyle every tournament

mention hes still taking school

#49
Mjtchell
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Marved on Icebox

#50
Cresp
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less that one game on icebox apart from that idk

#51
Caliburn0723
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raynexo [#43]

nats is really good. but you are just asking a really irrelevant question. playing an agent at a certain level is really not important. its the player that matters and there are a lot of good controller players.

No, agent performance matters too.
Especially controllers, each has its own style and really hard to perform equally good on all the agents.
Nitro for example was one of the best NA omen, on other hand his Astra,just sucked as*.
Viper makes players mostly to anchor a style and restrict movement across map, many players tried to emulate nats style of free moving viper but failed.
Well you have optic flair, so I I will just keep silent and pretend you know better😅

#52
Nisham
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whysoup [#46]

DRX seems to really suffer when it comes to drawn out tourney formats. They always come out with new stuff but the further they go and more film there is on them, the easier they become to read. It was slightly better with Zest this time around but still need something more to take that next step

Bro, not this take again. Zest DRX isn't VS holy shit. Only thing that was readable they did in the tournament was their eco rounds and split against Zeta after they were already mental boomed, ntm that Zeta were the best anti strat team in Iceland (imo) besides Optic.

#53
kyrielight
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utility wise defintely not, his aim is not the best among the controllers tho

#54
luckypleb
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sSSSScary

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