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valorant br 27/02

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Hgzin

first i wanna talk about this split without a initiator. i think its impossible perform well in this map without a skye/breach/kayo, u need info and bangs to help in team clashes. Play like nip and vk in split was what make brazil become a meme in masters and champions

vk is a good team but is dependent on a player, heat and this is so worrisome.

today in brazil a top 3 is composed by loud, furia and NIP. teams that are learning how and when to use abilities. Vk can become a top 3 team again, but need to fix many mistakes

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isn’t initiator the most op class
why would they play without initiator

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Acend played same comp than NIP recently

I guess the problem is how the rounds develop on such a rushed way

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trembolonaRage
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Incrível como vcs subestimam a HL kkkkkkkkkkk
Vai passar o trator nesses 3 times ai que vc citou nos playoffs

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Hgzin
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tetris69 [#2]

isn’t initiator the most op class
why would they play without initiator

i think initiator is a must pick in every map, play without it makes your duel much more dangerous

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trembolonaRage [#5]

Incrível como vcs subestimam a HL kkkkkkkkkkk
Vai passar o trator nesses 3 times ai que vc citou nos playoffs

yeah man, like they did it with loud

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Hgzin
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werZy [#4]

Acend played same comp than NIP recently

I guess the problem is how the rounds develop on such a rushed way

i will watch this vod, didnt no about it, but i still think that initiator is a must pick

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Rainyy
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tetris69 [#2]

isn’t initiator the most op class
why would they play without initiator

in how important
controller>>>>

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Não existe nenhum top 3 atualmente, podem tirando isso da cabeça. LOUD jogou no grupo onde só tem time fraco, exceto a Liberty (que é o porteiro do tier 1). Da última vez que ficaram falando de TOP 4 (Gamelanders, Team Vikings, Fúria e Sharks) surgiu dois times diferentes e derrubaram um por um (Vivo Keyd eliminando todo o antigo TOP 4 e Liberty chegando na final sem perder 1 mapa).

Brasil tá muito forte pra falar que existe um "top 3" de times fortes, qualquer um dos 10 times podem ganhar entre si.

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Hgzin [#7]

yeah man, like they did it with loud

exactly lol

they were clearly the better team

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I disagree in parts, yes it is more difficult to perform without these agents, but I don't think that's what made this game seem strange, for me it was the totally irrational style of play of the NIP, you can adapt in Split without these agents, difficult , but it's possible, but NIP was playing like X10 in Champions, just rushing non-stop anyway, and it worked, due to VK's adaptation factor and NIP's luck (specifically Bezn).
Another factor was the Heat's choice of weapons, which failed to impact this match, but yes, in general, this choice of agents is pretty risky.

And I don't think you can decide a top 3 based on one match or 2, what decides the performance of a current team is in the entire championship performance.

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drapion
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trembolonaRage [#5]

Incrível como vcs subestimam a HL kkkkkkkkkkk
Vai passar o trator nesses 3 times ai que vc citou nos playoffs

carai mano, mudou de time rapidão tu hein

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trembolonaRage [#11]

exactly lol

they were clearly the better team

Playing bad, and then they fixed their problems and started playing good.

13x0.

Loud N1

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Hgzin
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drapion [#14]

carai mano, mudou de time rapidão tu hein

eu? esse split sempre torci pra loud wtf kkkk

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Hgzin [#8]

i will watch this vod, didnt no about it, but i still think that initiator is a must pick

Watch KRU vs Sentinels

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Hgzin
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Izanagi [#10]

Não existe nenhum top 3 atualmente, podem tirando isso da cabeça. LOUD jogou no grupo onde só tem time fraco, exceto a Liberty (que é o porteiro do tier 1). Da última vez que ficaram falando de TOP 4 (Gamelanders, Team Vikings, Fúria e Sharks) surgiu dois times diferentes e derrubaram um por um (Vivo Keyd eliminando todo o antigo TOP 4 e Liberty chegando na final sem perder 1 mapa).

Brasil tá muito forte pra falar que existe um "top 3" de times fortes, qualquer um dos 10 times podem ganhar entre si.

voce pode ta certo mesmo, nao sei. A unica coisa que sinto esses times um pouco acima é pela sincronia, team play e uso de utilitarias

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werZy [#4]

Acend played same comp than NIP recently

I guess the problem is how the rounds develop on such a rushed way

Agree

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Hgzin
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Rabbiit [#12]

I disagree in parts, yes it is more difficult to perform without these agents, but I don't think that's what made this game seem strange, for me it was the totally irrational style of play of the NIP, you can adapt in Split without these agents, difficult , but it's possible, but NIP was playing like X10 in Champions, just rushing non-stop anyway, and it worked, due to VK's adaptation factor and NIP's luck (specifically Bezn).
Another factor was the Heat's choice of weapons, which failed to impact this match, but yes, in general, this choice of agents is pretty risky.

And I don't think you can decide a top 3 based on one match or 2, what decides the performance of a current team is in the entire championship performance.

i agree that the top is not confirmed, i say that because a see a team play and utilities using better in these teams.

About split, i think is the worst map in game with closed angles and places and play with initiator makes play a tr better and easier

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Rabbiit [#19]

Are u ok bro?

he became someone else after 100T lost to LG 💀💀💀💀

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Marty
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Rabbiit [#19]

Are u ok bro?

the 100t loss took a toll on him hermano, ignore him pitiful child

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Hgzin
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SirMat04 [#18]

Watch KRU vs Sentinels

kru were using skye dude, imo the best initiator in this map

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Hgzin [#22]

i agree that the top is not confirmed, i say that because a see a team play and utilities using better in these teams.

About split, i think is the worst map in game with closed angles and places and play with initiator makes play a tr better and easier

Yeah, initiator makes way more easier in Tr, but sometimes the team is more comfortable with a composition without initiator, so it depends a lot, but yes Split is a terrible map

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davmg [#23]

he became someone else after 100T lost to LG 💀💀💀💀

LMAO that Is sad

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Marty [#24]

the 100t loss took a toll on him hermano, ignore him pitiful child

Hoping he gets better in the future, his psychological is already destroyed

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Marty
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Rabbiit [#28]

Hoping he gets better in the future, his psychological is already destroyed

praying for my mans, sad to see

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sutan
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trembolonaRage [#5]

Incrível como vcs subestimam a HL kkkkkkkkkkk
Vai passar o trator nesses 3 times ai que vc citou nos playoffs

sim, só na lan q vão peidar como sempre

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Sadly couldn't watch either VK matches because the both of them started 4:50am and 4:00am IST. But I guess they are trying to start slow trying new comps. I would say wait till playoffs to know what is their actual form rn. I believe teams from Champions are trying to do this 'losing early' (like GMB) so other teams unintentionally become a little ignorant towards them. This is probably because other teams a lot of vods against these teams from Champions. So they are trying new comps and strats.

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uentzoul
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Hgzin [#17]

eu? esse split sempre torci pra loud wtf kkkk

acho q ele ta falando do trembolona, foi a VK perder q ele já se agarrou em outro time kk

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Rabbiit
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Bo0mShell [#32]

Sadly couldn't watch either VK matches because the both of them started 4:50am and 4:00am IST. But I guess they are trying to start slow trying new comps. I would say wait till playoffs to know what is their actual form rn. I believe teams from Champions are trying to do this 'losing early' (like GMB) so other teams unintentionally become a little ignorant towards them. This is probably because other teams a lot of vods against these teams from Champions. So they are trying new comps and strats.

Perfect analysis friend, Vk players said that the defeat is possibly due to the new compositions they were testing, and a defeat is not a parameter of the team's level, so it's good to wait until the end of the group stage and the start of the playoffs to see how they will perform.

And about the matches, I'll summarize them for you, Vk vs Sharks was basically a composition test of Vk on fracture, followed by 2 dominant maps. In the match against Nip, all 3 maps Nip played like x10 in Champions, rushing without caring about the consequences and somehow working out, Heat with Jett didn't play as expected, and with Chamber he played insanely well.

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Hgzin
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Bo0mShell [#32]

Sadly couldn't watch either VK matches because the both of them started 4:50am and 4:00am IST. But I guess they are trying to start slow trying new comps. I would say wait till playoffs to know what is their actual form rn. I believe teams from Champions are trying to do this 'losing early' (like GMB) so other teams unintentionally become a little ignorant towards them. This is probably because other teams a lot of vods against these teams from Champions. So they are trying new comps and strats.

wow, i liked your analysis, didnt think about it. but now they r in a difficult situation, if they lose to ingaming they r probably out of playoffs, but im rooting for they win and we see them better

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Rabbiit [#34]

Perfect analysis friend, Vk players said that the defeat is possibly due to the new compositions they were testing, and a defeat is not a parameter of the team's level, so it's good to wait until the end of the group stage and the start of the playoffs to see how they will perform.

And about the matches, I'll summarize them for you, Vk vs Sharks was basically a composition test of Vk on fracture, followed by 2 dominant maps. In the match against Nip, all 3 maps Nip played like x10 in Champions, rushing without caring about the consequences and somehow working out, Heat with Jett didn't play as expected, and with Chamber he played insanely well.

Thank you for the match recaps.

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Bo0mShell
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Hgzin [#35]

wow, i liked your analysis, didnt think about it. but now they r in a difficult situation, if they lose to ingaming they r probably out of playoffs, but im rooting for they win and we see them better

I think they would win against Ingaming. These strats and and new comps don't work against 'expected to do well' teams. And probably that's why VK tried to do more different things against NIP. It makes it more clear to them if the new stuff actually works against good teams or does it just scare low level teams.

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drapion
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uentzoul [#33]

acho q ele ta falando do trembolona, foi a VK perder q ele já se agarrou em outro time kk

exato kkk

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Bo0mShell [#37]

I think they would win against Ingaming. These strats and and new comps don't work against 'expected to do well' teams. And probably that's why VK tried to do more different things against NIP. It makes it more clear to them if the new stuff actually works against good teams or does it just scare low level teams.

I don't think they lose to ingaming, as much as Vk is taking it easy testing compositions and maps, they have their strength, Heat said on twitter some complications they had within the team in external things, that he played the match with some symptoms of covid (He had covid a very short time ago), so as a whole the team was not 100% today.

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