Why I think KRX's triple duelist comp is not troll

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Madouza

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BECAUSE SENTINELS ARE SHIT- (The role, not the team. They are too but that's a topic for another day...)

Sentis have been nerfed into the ground and get overrun by duelists, you already want to run 2 duelists in todays meta, what's so bad about 3?
Duelists like Neon/Phoenix give the same utility as a support initiator while also being able to play a lot more selfishly when they have to. It's the whole reason people like Erde/Jamppi play phoenix and Ethan played Neon, Those agents are initiators with entry tools. You get two of your best players on a role they're comfortable with, and get a 3rd for extra utility. While you could run Kay/o or Breach for a similar effect, why would you do that? Those two are also really bad right now. Breach's flashes/stun are easy to dodge and Kay/o is just worse than Sova/fade aside from a single map which you would also run Sova/Fade on which is ascent...but His job got stolen by phoenix. So, if you want extra initiator utility without sacrificing much when it comes to comp lethality...why not run a 3rd duelist?

3 duelists is also great for faking sites, waylay can dash in to show presence and then get out while the rest of the team scales the other side of the map. You can risk losing one duelist since you have another 2 for site takes later. Duelists are stacked with so much utility that losing 1 doesn't mean sacrificing much of anything since you have 2 loaded kits left to take site.

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allat but KRX fluked a win against DFM, lost to TS and then immediately switched off triple duel

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nataliee

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I believe in triple duelist but I think the way DRX did it was horrible

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Madouza

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Yes, the way THEY did it was bad

but it's genuinely a good comp with how shit sentis are

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zenv

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wouldve worked if they still had flashback

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lyssss

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i think so too, we were just terrible at it but its actually possible, especially with yoru

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MrBlooBloom

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you don't understand how the game works, there's no point debating that it's just not a thing or at the very least not to the extent that they used it

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Madouza

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Yes, the way THEY did it was bad
but it's genuinely a good comp with how shit sentis are

Not to the extent they used it, It's a good comp in the current meta.

I know how the game works, I know the way KRX used it was bad, I just mean their 5 agents is a good comp, not their style.

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MrBlooBloom

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explain to me what you do once the defenders understand that they can push extremities every round ?

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Madouza

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Waylay stun, Neon stun, phoenix molly, Shock dart, sova ult, Waylay ult, Paranoia, Flash, Just fight, Neon wall, phoenix wall

You have plenty of stall util to stop them from simply pushing extremities.

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MrBlooBloom

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the point is that they're pusing the extremities where you're not

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Madouza

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play like a normal no senti comp...?

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MrBlooBloom

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which is ?

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Madouza

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take fast map control (especially easy with the util of 3 duelists), get early info with sova/body checks, be mindful of flank, Overlap util to take site quickly, Util spam for postplant.

The comp has it's downsides, but all comps do. It's harder to get info but not impossible, especially with a good team.

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MrBlooBloom

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then why would you play triple duelist no senti if it's just harder to play

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Madouza

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Because it makes site takes easier in an attacker sided meta. 0 senti comps find value all the time, usually with double duelist, double initiator, Controller, but double initiator is so shit with kayo/breach being dead that 3 duelists is a possibility thanks to the power of phoenix.

continue thread →

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LightningIFY

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genuinely could see prx actually making this work in some world
something yoru
jingg/f0rsaken waylay/neon, depends on whoevers more comfy
and then invy and davai can play based on map, davai has a decent omen/viper, and invy can play all ini

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Madouza

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PRX couldn't, Jingg/F0rsaken need to be on smokes since D4v41's leave a lot to be desired and also doesn't have a great duelist.

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LightningIFY

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they can bro, davai is good enough on omen, and if ur gonna be running double controller then u cant run trip duel anw cuz u need an ini

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xenkiia

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am i getting deja vu or ts is repost

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Madouza

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I commented on someone else's post with a less fleshed out version of this.

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Sadly KrX dowsnt think like this