hot take | VLR.gg

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prx are ass rn but forsaken is still in goat convos

He's IGL and fragging most tournaments, one bad season doesnt define you especially since he was frying just earlier this year and he's the one that carried prx to santiago.
PRX is statistically the most consistent and successful team of all time and hes been their best player for multiple years.
He also allows his other teammates to play on their roles since he is the best flex in the game by far

He deserves the spot over aspas (who hasn't been good in a year), alfa (same thing), leo (was only good in the plumber era and now retired)

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define “most tournaments” because he’s consistently been one of the worst if not the worst performer on his team for the past two years

the toronto mvp saved his legacy but it doesn’t put him in goat tier

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He was consistently fragging good in santiago (and he was team mvp for kickoff)
was even better in champs, top fragging in multiple games
toronto MVP

saying hes the worst is just wrong, especially considering hes the caller for the team

I truly dont get why he gets the hate when jinggg basically lost entire games for them throwing, something same thing. The only other contender in that team is davai

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he had a 1.03 in champs, a 0.93 in santiago, and a 0.90 in london despite losing one 3-2 series

toronto was the ONLY event PRX have attended where f0rsakeN was the best on his team, and even in the grand final he was outperformed by d4v41. and despite the fact jinggg sometimes throws, he has plenty more takeover series and has actually been at several points in his career the best player on his team

he is literally just APAC chronicle without the accolades. he also isn’t a flex because the only agent he is world class on is omen

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he was 2nd rated in madrid, 3rd in shangai, 3rd in champs 23 while calling, how is he the worst😭😭, the igl excuse is valid for anybody but him?

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yeah because he’s not really the igl, he’s just the more vocal of the five. f0rsakeN igl is more propaganda for posts like yours than anything else lol

and even if he isn’t the worst (this year he absolutely was), he is nowhere near good enough to be considered the GOAT because for how great PRX have been he has barely ever been the best on his team

d4v41 and Jinggg are much better candidates, i would even throw something in there too

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"this year he was the worst" no he wasnt, best rated at kickoff (only reason they made santiago in the first place is him dropping over 100 in 4 maps

also what does "the most vocal of the five" even mean, he is the one calling strats and midrounding the most so why cant he take the credit

he was bad in London sure but thats about it

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Even if anything you say is true (which doesn’t mean much, being the IGL doesnt give players like boaster a pass) this still does not make an argument for why he should be in goat conversations

when it comes to internationals he isn’t the best on his team, and his impact is almost exclusively in intangibles that PRX fans swear is there. he is not the “flex goat” since he can barely play 2 agents, and he isn’t the one calling all of the strats, it’s been said before that they are a team effort

i’m not calling f0rsakeN bad. being the worst on the best team ever isn’t bad. he’s just not the best on his team, he’s not a star player, he’s just there on the team that is the greatest ever when other players in his team deserve it more than him

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ur just saying shit, he destroyed ur team multiple times with like 6 different agents when u were defending champs, but somehow he can """barely""" play 2 agents😭 if u dont like him its fine but ur just lying for fun

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Outside of controller agents (and BARELY controller agents, omen is like the only he’s actually top tier at) he is ass at pretty much every agent

He’ll maybe have one carry map on skye when PRX as a team are frying but that’s it

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good 1 bro

#4

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nice bait

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jingg is more of a goat candidate than he is lol

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him, d4v41, and something are further in goat convos than f0rsakeN

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biggest reason they lose is jinggg throwing or having total shit games

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biggest reason they lose is f0rsaken actually

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just loud and wrong af

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their best player for multiple years

lol

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shit bait

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PRX just wanted to go home. Something was the only one who actually tried in EWC lols.

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Some good cope for foreskin ig