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#1
twigster001

Is SGA top 10 all time already? Back to back MVPs in this era is incredibly impressive, as well as a championship and a finals MVP to go along with it. By far the most impactful player on the court on a nightly basis.

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Siigma777
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guy must be on a 3 day crack smoking bender with this post

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twigster001
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what would he have to do to break into the top 15 for you?

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Zelestia
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It's basket who cares

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delighted
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exactly even baseball is a better sport now

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shesh_
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0/8 baseball is the most boring of the big 4 by FAR

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CrackedDuelist
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look at larp

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twigster001
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baseball actually looks kinda fun with the ABS implemented now LOL

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delighted
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more sports need that tbh

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EstonianMorro
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SGA isn't better than westbrook. These trophies dont mean shit.

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twigster001
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that's some insane cope, Shai is definitely more impactful now than Westbrook was when he won MVP.

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EstonianMorro
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all trophies to you. when you discover the pure art of basketball is when you come to terms westbrook is among one of the players you will never see ever again

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twigster001
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Westbrook is definitely a 1 of 1 player and I wish that he won a ring with KD, but it's foolish to say that he's better than Shai. For his era, Westbrook was an incredible player and was the most impactful on his team. However, I believe that Shai has already surpassed him based off the past two years alone

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Maniacwolf
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Never compare prime Westbrook with shai. Bro was a powerhouse even without the refs

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shesh_
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honestly say what you will about him but i don't blame him for the flopping

maybe it's because i'm an nrg fan and it almost feels like the brawk odin to me, but i truly believe it's more of a league issue than an sga issue

flopping/exaggerating fouls gets him calls in the current state of the nba, gets him fts, and wins the thunder games

he's paid to win and he plays for the exact same reason

besides the fact that he's an incredible player without the flopping, call it "unethical" and maybe it is, but him just doing it doesn't move me on it's own merits

i think he's top 20 easily already and another ring would give me reason to push him to 15, i just think the top 10 has way too many giants at the moment and it takes a lot more to justify it

yap over

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He definitely flops way more than he needs to imo, his playstyle already results in a lot of contact and he could probably get similar FT attempts a game without needing to flail everywhere after most shots

Also, he is one of the shiftiest players in the league whenever he's focused on getting a basket, as opposed to whenever he's trying to draw a foul.

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Maniacwolf
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I wouldn’t care as much about flopping if their games was called fairly

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shesh_
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if you're talking about the wcf, honestly, that whole series was a shitshow

i truly think that silver and the league saw the viewership game 1 got, and artificially forced it to go to game 7 thru terrible officiating (both ways)

tin foil conspiracy dogshit i know

but honestly i don't think unfair calling has swung many of the games or series he's played in recently

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Prase
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Bro people hesitate to consider joker in top 10 oat who is shai

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twigster001
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Both are affected by recency bias (jokic had a poor playoffs this year, shai just won b2b mvps)

truthfully i don't think either deserve top 15 atm since jokic cant perform in the playoffs and shai cant stop flailing everywhere even though he doesn't need to

jokic is closer than shai to top 15 though

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E1ijah
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Short answer no
Long answer NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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twigster001
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is there a longer answer

#17
Yistyy
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no, he needs to be a better playoff performer. even in 2025 he had many shaky games and got bailed out by okc's historic defense.

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twigster001
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I think that his WCF Game 7 performance is good enough to dispel the shaky playoff performer narrative. Him and Cason Wallace were the only ones who showed up for OKC and they almost won.

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Yistyy
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that's fair to say but even then top 10 is pretty extreme. most guys in ppl's top 10 have multiple rings and longevity

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twigster001
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yeah no he's definitely not top 10 now that i think about it but he's probably already top 20

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Cheeders
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its clear that you've only started watching basketball

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JonahPork
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Would you consider Giannis top 10? He did that while also having a dpoy. No one considers Giannis top 10. Jokic also did this and isn’t top 10. SGA being such a playoff dropper isn’t helping his case either.

tbh, the bare minimum for top 10 is 3 rings and being the best player on the team for 2 of those (not necessarily the same as an fmvp)

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twigster001
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giannis would be top 15 if the Bucks could figure out how to build a roster around him

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Maniacwolf
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He’s not even top 20

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