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#1
MountainDewmepls
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Are Karmine Corp actually dangerous in Stage 2?

Bc if so I think EMEA can be argued as the most competitively mid region oat.
There is no definitive outlier between:
FNATIC
FUT
GIANTX
NAVI
BBL
TH
VIT
KC
M8
EF
TL

like obviously PCIFIC aren't winning shit but still.

#2
aiminverylabs
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no.

#3
Castawaytwizz
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no, they were a horrible team before and will continue to be now. their player quality is ~okay, but they don’t have a real IGL

furthermore there is definitely obvious standouts in that list, you can make clear tiers between them all

TH VIT
FNC EF
FUT TL M8
NAVI BBL
GX KC PCF

granted, I expect NAVI to improve with time, as should BBL as we exit the neon meta.

#4
MountainDewmepls
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M8s > BBL is kinda crazy no?

#9
Castawaytwizz
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I don’t see why it would be. They made it further through playoffs, they have one of the best players in Europe, and they just replaced their weakest link for arguably the best controller in T2

#5
PGSD4
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Why are you acting like they didn’t do changes and didn’t improve at all?

#6
biasedme
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except bottom 4 every pacific team is capable of defeating any of emea 3-12teams

#7
MountainDewmepls
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most competitively mid

I know damn well. The 6th best team in APAC can beat the best team in EMEA, I called the entire region mid, but they seem almost equally mid.

#8
biasedme
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actually no there are still outlines, i'll still consider th fnc vit top teams tl fut mid and rest b tier teams and then pcf

#13
wintery
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fnc being a top 3 team after failing to qualify for 3 intls in a row is generous

#16
biasedme
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I am using the logic if they face each other 10 times who wins more

#27
Dormammu
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😭

#26
FartmanHD
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Dumb ass

#10
DSBY
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they are MAD dangerous

#14
wintery
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#KCWIN

haters WILL be humbled

#25
Kattring
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We will make play-offs

#11
t0t0_wolff
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FYI Kcorpse have ze1sh as headcoach, who gave that import slot to Noobrate🤭

#12
PGSD4
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3-2
0 Bo5 since stage 1 2025
0ngh
Vegetables

#15
DSBY
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u tell him

#17
t0t0_wolff
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Mickey mouse. Stage1 0-5 av0z igl, can't wait for another stage2 disasterclass

#18
PGSD4
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Stay regional buddy i hope it’s warm in Berlin

#20
catNmouse
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they beat wolves and drx in bo5 😭

#22
PGSD4
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They should be proud of themselves

#19
Mqrio
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didnt even read the post but no a mid table team in freemea

is not a danger

#21
Dormammu
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G2 flair

#23
MrBulbe
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yes

#24
shadowvlr
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probably not

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