"let's see how VIT's gonna win today"
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Just go watch the other games if vit are that good that doesn't make the rest uninteresting if anything it makes the eventual loss that much more exciting
Galactc [#2]Just go watch the other games if vit are that good that doesn't make the rest uninteresting if anything it makes the eventual loss that much more exciting
yea to get 3 0 by VIT after bruh
I mean they deserve it
NaVi keep iM when he is just not it
FaZe is just frozen and friends
MOUZ are auraless bums
Falcons signing one more superstar every half a year just to fail
PARIVISON is jame and dastan with 4 inexperienced kids
Spirit have donk and sh1ro, but the other 3 are bums
Furia are either blazing hot or siberia tundra level of cold
G2 have no superstar
Liquid have ultimate
Meanwhile vitality got mezzi for 600k, flamez for free, ropz for free, zywoo for like 100k, apex pretty much for free.
delighted [#5]all bc faze sold ropz man fuck this
they didn't evel sell him, he left on a free https://www.hltv.org/news/40646/faze-release-ropz
Nef0r0 [#6]they didn't evel sell him, he left on a free https://www.hltv.org/news/40646/faze-release-ropz
I can guarantee u cs esports will die in the next few years
delighted [#7]I can guarantee u cs esports will die in the next few years
curious to hear your opinion
Nef0r0 [#8]curious to hear your opinion
vit are just winning everything there is NO roster itw that can win a bo3 and a bo5 against them
Nef0r0 [#8]curious to hear your opinion
eh no one thinks this but delighted
delighted [#9]vit are just winning everything there is NO roster itw that can win a bo3 and a bo5 against them
same was said about astralis in 2018-2019, navi in 2021, sk in 2016, fnatic in 2015. they are not immortal, second half of 2025 proves it. spirit won against them, g2 won against them, furia, navi came really close in budapest groups, falcons won against them. And the viewership of CS is good, 1.5 mil for the entirety of budapest major playoffs, (vct champs only had 1.5 mil on nrg vs fnatic grand final). Yeah I know it's without asia, but both games are in a good state. if navi get frozen they have a chance. a possible kyousuke-donk-monesy trio with a good supporting cast wins against them. Vitality are good, but the history of CS states there is no perfect team
delighted [#9]vit are just winning everything there is NO roster itw that can win a bo3 and a bo5 against them
We already had short NiP, fnatic, Luminosity/SK era, then glorious Astralis era and now its Vitality. tf u yapping cs gonna die
Nef0r0 [#11]same was said about astralis in 2018-2019, navi in 2021, sk in 2016, fnatic in 2015. they are not immortal, second half of 2025 proves it. spirit won against them, g2 won against them, furia, navi came really close in budapest groups, falcons won against them. And the viewership of CS is good, 1.5 mil for the entirety of budapest major playoffs, (vct champs only had 1.5 mil on nrg vs fnatic grand final). Yeah I know it's without asia, but both games are in a good state. if navi get frozen they have a chance. a possible kyousuke-donk-monesy trio with a good supporting cast wins against them. Vitality are good, but the history of CS states there is no perfect team
people were telling me a mongolz team who LOST TO AURORA and a FURIA that fell the fuck off are the favs to win the major
CinnamonStew34s [#10]eh no one thinks this but delighted
nah, there are some people on hltv who share this take. mostly new fans who like the concept of an ''undefeated team''. what if apex just retires because he doesn't feel the joy of winning. or mezzi focuses on his family? simply yet, what if zywoo enters s1mple 2023 or device 2021 phase and just becomes worse? Not 1.4 rating, 1.2?
delighted [#7]I can guarantee u cs esports will die in the next few years
Sure buddy
Nef0r0 [#14]nah, there are some people on hltv who share this take. mostly new fans who like the concept of an ''undefeated team''. what if apex just retires because he doesn't feel the joy of winning. or mezzi focuses on his family? simply yet, what if zywoo enters s1mple 2023 or device 2021 phase and just becomes worse? Not 1.4 rating, 1.2?
apex is NOT retiring
idk what's the situation with mezzi and his family
zywoo is NOT entering a s1mple 2023 phase, he is getting 1.3 rating minimum
delighted [#9]vit are just winning everything there is NO roster itw that can win a bo3 and a bo5 against them
Falcons 2-1 vitality recently at the start of the year
aspas_number1hater [#17]Falcons 2-1 vitality recently at the start of the year
what has happened since then
delighted [#16]apex is NOT retiring
idk what's the situation with mezzi and his family
zywoo is NOT entering a s1mple 2023 phase, he is getting 1.3 rating minimum
Who expected simple to enter 2023 phase tho
aspas_number1hater [#19]Who expected simple to enter 2023 phase tho
this time it's way too different
delighted [#18]what has happened since then
They could still lose
delighted [#13]people were telling me a mongolz team who LOST TO AURORA and a FURIA that fell the fuck off are the favs to win the major
Because FURIA won the two events right before the major where vitality were also present? Literally smacked vitality's ass 3-0 in Chengdu? 2-1'd them in Hong Kong? mongolz were never a favourite to win the major, in budapest it was spirit, falcons, furia, vitality.
falcons and spirit matched against each other so it was -1 for vitality to face.
furia got hard counter stratted by navi on the other end of the bracket. Legit just turned off molodoy on train, just didn't allow him to play.
spirit faced a fucking historical meltdown
Vitality aren't the best because they are invincible. They are the best because they pound on their opponent's misfortunes or force them. This happened so many times I am too lazy to count them, but just to name a few, IEM Melbourne 2025 (falcons 12-6 lead on map 5), FURIA choking to NaVi in Budapest, Spirit handing vitality mirage on the silver platter in budapest 2025
delighted [#20]this time it's way too different
Whats different then
Nef0r0 [#22]Because FURIA won the two events right before the major where vitality were also present? Literally smacked vitality's ass 3-0 in Chengdu? 2-1'd them in Hong Kong? mongolz were never a favourite to win the major, in budapest it was spirit, falcons, furia, vitality.
falcons and spirit matched against each other so it was -1 for vitality to face.
furia got hard counter stratted by navi on the other end of the bracket. Legit just turned off molodoy on train, just didn't allow him to play.
spirit faced a fucking historical meltdown
Vitality aren't the best because they are invincible. They are the best because they pound on their opponent's misfortunes or force them. This happened so many times I am too lazy to count them, but just to name a few, IEM Melbourne 2025 (falcons 12-6 lead on map 5), FURIA choking to NaVi in Budapest, Spirit handing vitality mirage on the silver platter in budapest 2025
https://www.hltv.org/matches/2391133/furia-vs-astralis-esl-pro-league-season-23-stage-2
aspas_number1hater [#23]Whats different then
bc zywoo has ropz flamez and mezii to assist him + apex is the best IGL rn and it's not even close
delighted [#16]apex is NOT retiring
idk what's the situation with mezzi and his family
zywoo is NOT entering a s1mple 2023 phase, he is getting 1.3 rating minimum
- How can you be so sure? he is 33 for fuck's sake, he can just get bored, maybe he falls off individually. wins the 5th major in cologne 2026 and just calls it quits?
- mezzi has a baby daughter afaik, he can just become a family man, he won everything, why bother?
- how can you be so sure? fnatic ended because of health problems, astralis - same, a literal war happened to stop the navi era, fuck knows what can happen?
No one expected this vitality to dominate when they signed ropz, because quite frankly ropz fell off in 2024, he was by all statistics worse than spinx, but then they became this team. How can you logically predict their falloff?
delighted [#25]bc zywoo has ropz flamez and mezii to assist him + apex is the best IGL rn and it's not even close
device had dupreeh xyp9x and magisk to assist him + glaive was the best igl back then
Lets say zywoo will be good forever then how can u be sure the others will
delighted [#24]https://www.hltv.org/matches/2391133/furia-vs-astralis-esl-pro-league-season-23-stage-2
#4, point about FURIA is there, this roster is capable of this https://www.hltv.org/matches/2387414/vitality-vs-furia-iem-chengdu-2025 https://www.hltv.org/matches/2387545/furia-vs-vitality-blast-rivals-2025-season-2
if one game dictates the level of the team, then okay, I expect vitality's era to end to legacy or someone like this
aspas_number1hater [#28]device had dupreeh xyp9x and magisk to assist him + glaive was the best igl back then
Lets say zywoo will be good forever then how can u be sure the others will
u do realize that VIT can just find easy replacements
delighted [#30]u do realize that VIT can just find easy replacements
So did astralis?
Nef0r0 [#27]
- How can you be so sure? he is 33 for fuck's sake, he can just get bored, maybe he falls off individually. wins the 5th major in cologne 2026 and just calls it quits?
- mezzi has a baby daughter afaik, he can just become a family man, he won everything, why bother?
- how can you be so sure? fnatic ended because of health problems, astralis - same, a literal war happened to stop the navi era, fuck knows what can happen?
No one expected this vitality to dominate when they signed ropz, because quite frankly ropz fell off in 2024, he was by all statistics worse than spinx, but then they became this team. How can you logically predict their falloff?
- he's not getting bored by the looks of things
- the constant success of vit is actually helping with mezzi's livelihood, why would he stop
- vit don't have health problems, there is no war in france
aspas_number1hater [#31]So did astralis?
difference is astralis management are ass and vit's management is somewhat decent
delighted [#32]
- he's not getting bored by the looks of things
- the constant success of vit is actually helping with mezzi's livelihood, why would he stop
- vit don't have health problems, there is no war in france
- because apex has been a professional for like 17 years, it can be gradual
- because sooner or later you become tired of events and travel and simply want to spend time with your families?
- olof's health problems weren't always there, they just happened.
The thing is, you just try to be all doom and gloom saying cs will die because of vitality's era, but sports can't really be predicted. I simply admire and respect vitality for what they do, but sooner or later this will end. The strongest team of all time ended their run at 3 majors in a row, there is a chance vitality match them, outdo them or fall even in cologne. I am not a fan of vitality, I am a fan of navi, but I think this domination is good because it shows the entire scene that good management >>> money
Nef0r0 [#34]
- because apex has been a professional for like 17 years, it can be gradual
- because sooner or later you become tired of events and travel and simply want to spend time with your families?
- olof's health problems weren't always there, they just happened.
The thing is, you just try to be all doom and gloom saying cs will die because of vitality's era, but sports can't really be predicted. I simply admire and respect vitality for what they do, but sooner or later this will end. The strongest team of all time ended their run at 3 majors in a row, there is a chance vitality match them, outdo them or fall even in cologne. I am not a fan of vitality, I am a fan of navi, but I think this domination is good because it shows the entire scene that good management >>> money
the reason why I think VIT are gonna be good isn't bc of the roster itself but bc of it's management
delighted [#35]the reason why I think VIT are gonna be good isn't bc of the roster itself but bc of it's management
fair point, but other managements can and will adapt, they are not morons.
Nef0r0 [#36]fair point, but other managements can and will adapt, they are not morons.
but for me the other orgs have alr adapted and tried to get the best roster that they could
it just isn't enough
delighted [#37]but for me the other orgs have alr adapted and tried to get the best roster that they could
it just isn't enough
absolutely not
falcons have 3 superstars who have huge egos and are not tilt proof
navi have iM and wonderful who are the most contrasting pros on the scene
faze shot themselves in the foot, ate cynade, swallowed nails and fell off a bridge.
spirit got magixx who is not an IGL in game leading, kept zont1x who is a bum.
furia have fallen who is an unc, yekindar who is inconsistent and molodoy who simply lacks experience
aurora have the best roster they can have, but they are nerfed by the fact xantares is literally breaking down physically.
MOUZ simply lack someone with ego or experience to lead them
stop talking about another esport on the forum ge
t the off
nobody plays cs everyone watches cuz you cant play if there is a hacker in every game
vit are miles above anyone else, but there's still alot of competition b/w other teams. you don't know who would defeat who
bleakkkkkkk [#39]stop talking about another esport on the forum ge
t the off
nobody plays cs everyone watches cuz you cant play if there is a hacker in every game
Off topic exists for a reason
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