what even happened to them since then? i swear i remember every IGL even boostio, boaster and fns were able to shoot and take fights. now with most IGL's its expected that they bottom frag. (it was like that back then, but it wasn't as bad as it is now.)
edit: obviously there is some exceptions like. nAts, Mako, Ethan, Avez, starxo.
lol Boaster and FNS were NOT winning fights lmao. Boostio had a strong period tbf
? no?
2023 had igls like koldamenta, redgar, ange1, fns and boaster. none of them could frag
Congo1 [#2]lol Boaster and FNS were NOT winning fights lmao. Boostio had a strong period tbf
Boaster's clutch % was insane in 2023 iirc. plus he held his own in that loud lockin gf.
GambleNats [#3]? no?
2023 had igls like koldamenta, redgar, ange1, fns and boaster. none of them could frag
"ange1" alr buddy just say you dont know ball
GambleNats [#3]? no?
2023 had igls like koldamenta, redgar, ange1, fns and boaster. none of them could frag
ange1 was one of the better fragging igls. bro was putting himself on yoru lol.
WjFROST [#7]"ange1" alr buddy just say you dont know ball
https://www.vlr.gg/247104/natus-vincere-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-decider-d -13
https://www.vlr.gg/247102/natus-vincere-vs-drx-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-winners-d -25
https://www.vlr.gg/247100/team-liquid-vs-natus-vincere-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-opening-d -3
https://www.vlr.gg/235368/giants-gaming-vs-natus-vincere-champions-tour-2023-emea-last-chance-qualifier-gf -25
https://www.vlr.gg/235372/koi-vs-natus-vincere-champions-tour-2023-emea-last-chance-qualifier-lbf -12
last 5 games he played in 2023
OldIGN [#11]ange1 was one of the better fragging igls. bro was putting himself on yoru lol.
another 5 games
https://www.vlr.gg/235371/natus-vincere-vs-karmine-corp-champions-tour-2023-emea-last-chance-qualifier-lr1 -12
https://www.vlr.gg/235365/natus-vincere-vs-koi-champions-tour-2023-emea-last-chance-qualifier-ubsf -16
https://www.vlr.gg/220294/natus-vincere-vs-edward-gaming-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-elim-a -14
https://www.vlr.gg/220290/nrg-esports-vs-natus-vincere-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-opening-a -14
https://www.vlr.gg/213201/natus-vincere-vs-fut-esports-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-lr2 -10
in the last 10 games ange1 played, there was 1 game he was less than -5 kill negative. let alone positive
GambleNats [#12]https://www.vlr.gg/247104/natus-vincere-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-decider-d -13
https://www.vlr.gg/247102/natus-vincere-vs-drx-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-winners-d -25
https://www.vlr.gg/247100/team-liquid-vs-natus-vincere-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-opening-d -3
https://www.vlr.gg/235368/giants-gaming-vs-natus-vincere-champions-tour-2023-emea-last-chance-qualifier-gf -25
https://www.vlr.gg/235372/koi-vs-natus-vincere-champions-tour-2023-emea-last-chance-qualifier-lbf -12last 5 games he played in 2023
against team that made top 3.
2 close ot's in 3 maps.
another 2 close ot's.
they all played bad and got swept.
this 1s pretty inexcusable.
OldIGN [#14]against team that made top 3.
2 close ot's in 3 maps.
another 2 close ot's.
they all played bad and got swept.
this 1s pretty inexcusable.
you have to go back 16 games before you find 1 game where ange1 was positive
GambleNats [#13]another 5 games
https://www.vlr.gg/235371/natus-vincere-vs-karmine-corp-champions-tour-2023-emea-last-chance-qualifier-lr1 -12
https://www.vlr.gg/235365/natus-vincere-vs-koi-champions-tour-2023-emea-last-chance-qualifier-ubsf -16
https://www.vlr.gg/220294/natus-vincere-vs-edward-gaming-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-elim-a -14
https://www.vlr.gg/220290/nrg-esports-vs-natus-vincere-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-opening-a -14
https://www.vlr.gg/213201/natus-vincere-vs-fut-esports-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-lr2 -10in the last 10 games ange1 played, there was 1 game he was less than -5 kill negative. let alone positive
id agree if it wasnt for 7 out of the 10 games, they lost and the players themselves played bad.
OldIGN [#16]id agree if it wasnt for 7 out of the 10 games, they lost and the players themselves played bad.
out of 24 games ange1 played in 2023
he went positive 5 times
he went neutral 2 times
https://www.vlr.gg/173218/natus-vincere-vs-giants-gaming-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-w1
stand out bad game where his team did good
https://www.vlr.gg/167363/natus-vincere-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-ro16
stand out good game, because im nice (only time he did this)
GambleNats [#15]you have to go back 16 games before you find 1 game where ange1 was positive
ill rephrase it. heading into 2023 ange1 was one of the better fragging igls. start of 2023 he was doing good and going positive, then later in the season navi the team not just ange1 were doing just as bad as him. probably could look at the other players on navi in 2023 and see similar stats.
OldIGN [#18]ill rephrase it. heading into 2023 ange1 was one of the better fragging igls. start of 2023 he was doing good and going positive, then later in the season navi the team not just ange1 were doing just as bad as him. probably could look at the other players on navi in 2023 and see similar stats.
i went through every game. ange1 is consistenly negative even if the rest of his team is positive. you are right heading into 2023 he was fragging pretty well. but the same could be said for redgar
GambleNats [#19]i went through every game. ange1 is consistenly negative even if the rest of his team is positive. you are right heading into 2023 he was fragging pretty well. but the same could be said for redgar
same could be said yeah, but ange1 made 2/3 international events, shouldve been 3/3 in 2022. while redgar didnt, so its harder to justify for redgar.
OldIGN [#20]same could be said yeah, but ange1 made 2/3 international events, shouldve been 3/3 in 2022. while redgar didnt, so its harder to justify for redgar.
fair
GambleNats [#3]? no?
2023 had igls like koldamenta, redgar, ange1, fns and boaster. none of them could frag
https://vctscorigami.onrender.com/?player=ANGE1&tournament=all
buddy do me a favor look at the Kills - Death record and scroll LITERALLY all the way down
Out of 590 player Ange1 is 589 only beaten by Boaster at 590
Oni_APAC [#23]https://vctscorigami.onrender.com/?player=ANGE1&tournament=all
buddy do me a favor look at the Kills - Death record and scroll LITERALLY all the way down
Out of 590 player Ange1 is 589 only beaten by Boaster at 590
thank you for proving my point
nAts Mako and Ethan werent igls in 23
Boaster and FNS were -15 every match
what are you saying
foythvlr [#25]nAts Mako and Ethan werent igls in 23
Boaster and FNS were -15 every match
what are you saying
i said they are the exceptions for this year cause they can shoot? plus boaster literally went positive against loud in the grand final lol 4 kills off of aspas.
OldIGN [#26]i said they are the exceptions for this year cause they can shoot? plus boaster literally went positive against loud in the grand final lol 4 kills off of aspas.
its expected that igls now shoot not the opposite
and that was a exception, he was still dogshit individually apart from clutches
GambleNats [#24]thank you for proving my point
I can't stand mfs like these that just say shit, he's not even rage bating he genuinely thinks Ange1 is a fragging IGL lmao
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